The Unexpected Story Behind Zac Aynsley Doing the Wim Hof Method | The Wim Hof Podcast

Essentially my girlfriend,

she was diagnosed with Lymphoma cancer at the end of last year.

And yeah, it was just a big panic for us, a big shock.

You know, we just moved into our house and everything seemed great.

It was like a real life fairy tale. Everything was perfect.

You know, I was so in love. We were so happy together.

Everything was perfect.

I moved to Holland,

It was just like a start of a new life, a new chapter.

And then one week after moving in together, we got struck by this.

And it was just such a big scare, you know, for both of us.

More so for her, obviously.

But when she was at the hospital

getting the tests done to find out what type of cancer it was. Is it cancer?

Even though the doctors are 95 percent certain...

I was at home doing research immediately.

“I need to stop this before it gets worse.”

You know, I need to

make her body alkaline, get CBD oil and all these different things.

And then, yeah, I don't know what it was, but something just clicked in my head:

"Wim Hof Method".

I'm always very careful with...

in bringing forward these....

'Cures' towards ailments, right?

And autoimmune disease, etc.

Even though there is a lot of science of battling inflammation,

My dad is a believer, you know, and he sees like miracles going on around him.

But I act from the company's perspective, very careful...

I mean, I wasn't thinking I'm going to Wim and 'cure' her cancer.

you know, but but still you came and so and then there's a wall

and then I'm there and I'm like , “Ok but wait a minute Zac.”

“This is not the pinnacle cure or whatever.”

BUT I have seen in our community that people with a

low amount of white blood cells that are doing the method

and in combination with food or with whatever,

they would be able to raise it substantially.

And that's that's what I brought forward to you like, “hey, man...”

”Don't bring the number, you don't give the number.”

“Keep it like...”

Dont be like "we're going to not do chemo." No, let's do it and see what happens.

Well, that's that's what I forgot.

I mentioned we actually had the test done first before I contacted you, sorry.

And yeah, she was told that she wouldn't be able

to get chemo at this stage because her white blood cell count was too low.

Yeah, I think it was like 0.2 or needed to be 0.5, for example.

And yeah, I can't remember what it was, but something clicked

in my head thinking the breathing technique could help.

And I think I'm not sure if I heard it from somebody else

or if I'd seen something online, but something just clicked in my head.

And so I try to tell her I say, "hey, try this breathing method.”

“It's going to help boost your white blood cells." But if you think about it,

if your partner comes up to you and says, which by the way has cancer...

if that partner comes up to you and says, oh, "breathe for ten minutes”

“It's going to fix you,”

you're going to sound like a fucking lunatic. So I thought

that's why it would be amazing if we could get Wim on the phone himself,

you know, because you're so respected and well known.

And, yeah, you're the master of this essentially.

If we could get you to maybe just sit down and talk with Melody

about how it works, your experience, etcetera.

Yeah. She might be, you know, tempted to try this

and really give it everything and see how it works with her.

And so, yeah, like thanks. Thanks to you, man.

We came we came, met you,

sat in the kitchen, had a really great talk for an hour and went home.

First thing she did was get in the cold shower, then did the breathing method.

And she loved him and she loved the breathing method.

She didn't really like the cold at first - Me neither.

But the breathing... She was she was doing it every day .

Every day was something to look forward to...

I really got into it and was going deeper and deeper into it.

You know, the breath holds were getting longer.

And, yeah, she's actually here now as well.

But I'm...

Please do come and sit.

Yes, she explains it better than me..

Hi. Welcome, Melody. Thank you. Thanks.

Thanks a lot for everything you've done for us, first of all...

And it’s good for me to share my experience.

I think at our age, I'm only now 28, was 27 when I was diagnosed.

We were young. We feel invincible.

And when it strikes you at this age, you are not prepared for it.

No one prepares you to have cancer , but even less when you're young.

It's been a big shock for me.

I think the worst was for my dad and Zach...

For them to experience that they could lose someone that they love to [...].

It's never good.

So for me, the fight with this cancer was always

I had to be strong for myself, but more for the others.

I'm a strong person by my nature and...

I've been always interested in looking out for alternative therapies.

I was actually considering,

before we met you, too, to do other things, next to chemotherapy,

but it was worrying for my family.

So I decided to do the chemotherapy.

And we actually came to see you on the day of my first chemotherapy.

And yes, like I said, it was really to boost my white blood cells

because on the second chemotherapy I had

I couldn't get it...

My white bloodcells on the Friday were 0.3.

And you need a minimum of 0.5 for neutrophils,

which are the white blood cells that protect the body from infections.

And I think I did

after that breathing and the cold for two or three times a day

over the weekend and on Monday, I could get my chemotherapy and it was 0.6.

So my my numbers doubled, which is usually...

They told me on Friday

"Probably we need to wait until Wednesday before you can get your chemotherapy."

They offered you injection as well didn't they?

Well, then they said "You need to come back,

we need to give you injections to get you that white blood cell boost.

But yeah, by the

time we came back for the second check up the white bloodcells had doubled.

And she got the green light, but it didn't stop from there.

You continued doing it, The showers got longer, the breatholds got longer.

And yeah... I mean the results were great.

...for something so simple, it wasn't like she's just beat a cancer

because she started breathing or anything.

That's crazy. But the results,

we were seeing from something so simple, ten minutes a day of breathing

and the time 30 seconds to a minute in some cold water, that's it.

It changed so much in a couple of days.

And also for the mindset.

I really saw the benefit of the cold shower, it was giving me the endorphin.

When I was coming out of the shower I was feeling alive.

It was great. We turned it into a bit of a game, you know, because it wasn't fun.

I mean, when I did my first coach, I was like fighting the water,

you know, to try and get angry at it, to stay in longer.

How much did you pay them to tell this?

What?

How much did you pay them?

I almost was thinking you guys were getting paid to say this

What’s going on here?

I actually see that through all my friends.

You know, it's great.

And the breathing for me was just the way, especially at night, to calm me down.

I'm a person that's always suffered with insomnia.

I will usually take some natural medicine

that I can buy in a pharmacy to help me sleep.

I used to do just three rounds of four rounds of breathing at night,

and it would calm me down and fall asleep so easily.

Oh, so it was great.