Maria Manounos interviews Wim Hof

thanks for having me i I've been

fascinated with you since I started

going to Tony Robbins seminars three

years ago maybe it was a little more

than three years ago now and I've just

been saying since I started this radio

show I'm like I need to talk to him

because I love talking to people who

defy the odds and I love talking to

people who understand and obviously you

understand more than any of us that the

mind is so much more powerful than we

use it for it has so much more to give

and we don't access at all and and it's

it's just it's fascinating to me and I

know there's so many things I want to

talk about but I guess for those who

don't know you let's explain to them who

you are and where your journey started

with all of this because you're not just

somebody who's you're not doing tricks

it's not like hey look at me I can sit

in ice for an hour it's so much deeper

than that

yes actually is 20:21

records in our 26 its 2600 anyone's

growing all the time that's why you

gotta update that room yeah yeah I'm not

going to be mad we did another research

because you move so fast we can't keep

up with you and yes I'm really moving

fast why I've been in nature so long and

so many more challenges I took on there

is more than meets the eye and that was

my beginning psych you know was on a

soul search about only 17 how are you

searching at 17 because I've watched a

lot of interviews with you and I've done

my research and when you said you were

soul searching at 17 I'm like most

people are drinking and getting wasted

and yeah no exactly so I wasn't clearly

I was and I took it on a lot of esoteric

disciplines and traditions cultures

religions languages

think of that practices like yoga kungfu

karate and buddhism Sufism or all kinds

of things but nothing was able to

connect me with the depth of myself like

the cult was I've just felt this

attraction when then and since then I'm

hooked which is 41 years ago 17 hours

and I found out by intuition instinct

this is it and it's not in the books or

whatever it is it makes me feel

wonderful great powerful to within so

wherever you feel that you go back no

matter what so I took on a regular

practice every winter in the Duchy

winters are quite cold and it's freezing

and and the water is yeah conducting in

it a lot of cold if you go in so you got

to do something there I learned to

become aware that with deeper breathing

you're able to withstand a cold impact

that's power on your body aggressive

energy like coal ice cold make you look

there I learned to control that with

that I learned to control deeper

physiology and then I came became aware

that it was able to sit all night long

and freezing temperatures in shorts

outside what do you think then at that

moment you feel it's tremendous in from

the inside being able to withstand key

impact which is going on your nervous

system on your vascular system on your

mind and you are able to counteract with

your mind subtly something we did not

learn in books in the school we learn to

run in the in a systemized

civilization call we can shoot people to

the moon yet we don't we know little of

our own deep physiology mmm-hmm and now

it seems

like four years ago I did studies with

the university showing people within a

couple of days being able to tap into

this deeper physiology because I know

the way it works now from nature go

through laboratory settings and make

people within four days able to tap into

the autonomous nervous system something

what was in medical history known as

weak at will we cannot tap into that

yeah now all the person's twelve of them

they hundred percent score we're into

the autonomic nervous system the innate

immune system and the endocrine system

with the hormonal you're talking about

the experiment that they did on you

right yeah so so let me explain to

people really quickly so basically and

I'm going to see if I sound okay so you

taught yourself how to control your

heart rate your breathing in your blood

circulation these functions are all

regulated by the autonomic nervous

system and autonomic must I mean I don't

know what it means officially but it

must mean it works on its own

automatically right so you can't

interfere with it so science tells us

that the autonomic nervous system can't

be influenced by your own will but yet

when manages to do this by steering the

hypothalamus which is the area of the

brain that controls body temperature so

so you have figured out how to control

something that no one has ever thought

was controllable and and then also there

was a study that they did for you I

think it was University of Holland yes

okay so they injected him with an

endotoxin to prove that he can auto

regulate his immune system is the

autonomic system part of the immune

system yes it had a D innate immune

system is part of the autonomic nervous

system together with the endocrine the

hormonal system okay so they injected

him with an endo toxin which you imagine

is a toxin and he also taught 12 people

his method so there was a control group

of 12 people and then there was winds

can group

twelve people and the control group had

told people they all got sick and wyms

wim and his 12 people did not get sick

correct

etc okay so how first of all you are

unique obviously and you figured

something out that not a lot of people

have figured out how did you convince 12

people to allow them so I understand why

you would be able to take on that risk

how did you convince 12 other people to

pop this toxin into their body and use

your method I made him able without

prior experience in the cold to go on

day 4 by sense by feeling this power

making them able to go in shorts on a

mountain and then on the top of the

mountain five hours we were exposed to

the cold on the top of the mountain how

old - 7 27 27 degrees and it went up

from minus 10 to minus 17 minus 20

Celsius or Fahrenheit SSS Celsius where

it's very cold it's very cold is where

people normally not are not able to

survive and then ones are taught by

nothing nothing and then on top of it on

top of the top the summit we danced the

Harlem shake

oh yeah we did we did I got I got this

on the you know YouTube and everything

it's really funny but the thing is we

celebrated the power just lustful or the

power of life itself and then I knew

when I saw them and we danced together

afterwards these people are going to

fend off the bacteria injected the end

of doctrine is a bacteria e.coli

bacteria which clear normally causes a

fever uncontrolled shivering all over

agony headaches and all that Noah and

not nice and but I knew then I felt

instinctively they are going to do the

same I showed in university settings

after

administering the under 13 they will be

able to do it they got counted a contact

connection with their deeper physiology

the way nature mender to be so I'm the

Iceman

but I became a wise man and how but by

taking the knowledge which is in nature

we have a lot of problems with all kinds

of diseases you because we have no

control over our deeper physiology

animal that's why we got these hospitals

and pharmaceuticals and and all that and

a whole lot of problems on depression

cancer on out immune diseases a teacher

something needs to be done I told them

on the way to the mountain I told them

listen guys about mindset we are going

to show the world how to win that war of

most casualties in history the war on

the bacteria the virus and the bad and

the backsaw and four days later they

were there I knew it and four days later

in the hospital they showed 100% control

within a quarter of our over this

bacteria injected when they injected the

bacteria were that was their main focus

as it was injected and for that time to

breathe the way you taught them yes

breathing plus focus okay

and I what's the focus on I'm going to

just focus just doing your best just

doing your best now two months ago I was

here in America in the u.s. to do

another to show you what the power of

the mind means it's not just focus and

do something with your mind and a be

motivated no no chemicals and these

neuro chemicals I will show you our

being in a brain scan I showed just

recently a being in a having a vest on

with cubes for ice water to go in so my

skin temperature is really exposed to

ice water

temperatures and I just by thinking

using theory and directing

neurochemicals making my body impervious

to the ice water injected or a port in

does the temperature skin temperature

remain the same first the first two

scans I did nothing

and it went plumped like 25 degrees and

then I said now I'm gonna do something

and then four times seven out minutes

exposure of ice water on the skin and

showing no degrees of temperatures

so the initial you let it plummet so

that you could show that your body isn't

some yes it's not the body it's that's

it you know are you lating this it's

your mind exactly now the new study is

going to be the mind not the body this

is the study I'm into and it showed in

the brain what was happening in the

brain where normally we have no control

over the hormonal system I was

mentioning that before the autonomic

nervous system

a part of that what is outside of our

world working is the hormonal system the

endocrine system they call is a fancy

name for the same thing another thing is

the innate immune system so those are

detecting cells within us they have to

fend off the cell bacteria back sole and

vaccine what is a virus that they have a

specific badass the bad stuff and we had

no control because it's about the T

cells and the B cells normally takes

five to seven days so when you got a flu

for them to work we make them work

within a quarter of hour through this so

anyway just breathing breathing and

believing yes

but believing now is no longer just

something abstract

it is neurochemical being able within

the brain while ice water is poured for

example ice water is like danger for the

functionality of the body could be heat

as well could be stress could be a

dangerous situation we have

this control within the power of the

mind to be within the mind while the

mind and the body are working together

like a witness we program it to be so so

then it's working

if you check I was just looking well the

the court was coming on to me I was

looking to the cold

was not cold at all I programmed it

before I wanted it to do to make a

difference I did not even know what to

do there but then oh I'm do what I

always do when I do these records at the

day when I am going to execute it I'm

peaceful I'm done I did all my best so

let it go now yeah not going to

interfere and this mechanism showed that

they were that I was producing by their

fancy names insula and prefrontal cortex

together with the brain stem I'm into

the peri aqua ductile grey hemisphere

which normally is autonomic you cannot

influence now and fully in it and then

producing endorphines opioids

cannabinoids serotonins

etc while ice water is coming in so good

field or moans well ice water is coming

in and getting the insula which is the

detector of sympathetic or

parasympathetic nervous system activity

which is action full action because I

just coming in no I get the

parasympathetic nervous system peace

control witnessing what's happening

well full adrenaline is going on to have

the functionality of the body maintained

and then they told me the professor's

over there this is going to change

mental healthcare and where did I find

this knowledge wisdom I call it it's not

mine it's wrong nature you you just pass

it on and now I'm here with you guys I

think it's very very important

because I use any window to get to

people listen we got did all the tools

the way nature meant it to be to become

happy strong and healthy because

happiness is so those are hormones we

can stay then we can direct them even in

the most difficult of situations we can

become strong because we control stress

hormone adrenaline epinephrine and at

noradrenaline we can control coffee so

we can control it which is a big thing

in our society he's exerting so much

neurologically of our brain and execute

a lot of cortisol going on without any

largest stress yes God is a stress and

these are neuro chemicals and we had no

control now we have control we showed

people lying in bed in being a little

bit higher breathing exercises and then

specifically going into it producing

more adrenaline than somebody going into

its first bungee jump Wow

you see what I mean that's controlled

stress hormone that's a way we could

take the stress upon us like witnessing

and easy are you going to jump again so

no it's okay just wanna fly yeah you say

and then he'll that's the control over

the immune system we had no control over

the innate immune system which is part

of the autonomic nervous system again

and now it shows that within a quarter

of hour we are able to fend off the

bacteria's reaction on the immune system

which is done normally creating fever

and headaches and agony inflammation so

what it shows that you within a quarter

of our diplomatic markers will go down

and then we assigns the root of all

disease a day you got I don't know what

what is you first make me Maria

ma'am every year what it is so that's

where we are we we bring love to the

world for every mother should be able to

guarantee love to his son

and Endora a child and how by showing

that we are none speculatively able to

activate that what causes health which

is the control of the immune system

strength which has controlled stress

hormone in the body and a happiness

which is endorphines and all those

hormones good feel hormones we should

bring that into schooling bring that

confidence and belief to every mother in

the world you know it reminds me of my

favorite movie in the world is The

Wizard of Oz and the favorite moment of

that movie is when the Good Witch looks

at her and says you have the power all

along to click your heels and you could

go home like you've had the power all

along and we have the power all along

however what we've learned in Western

culture is that we give that power over

to doctors to pills and to all of these

things come fix my problem rather than

looking within yes and rather than

looking for another another way you see

and it is it's not me to saying this

anymore we are found a way to to get

into the autonomic nervous system and to

battle tackle pain either pain

mechanisms it's also chemistry and we

are now able to after the new completed

study showing people who do these

techniques are able to receive charges

of electricity on their bodies with

through sensors like to the utmost and

there are so many people unnecessarily

suffering from chronic pains and if they

just click their heels then he could be

solved I say yes I say yes to a whole

lot more but we have to go past that

that what created disbelief that what

created a way of looking outside go back

have confidence and belief back inside

again now backed up with science

validated so there is no speculation

about it

and how that's what I have more studies

I mean to neuroscience I mean to

inflammation immunity and and all these

studies but I want a hundred studies to

show that Nature has the answer not all

and you can't our minds like I look at

my daddy's been type one diabetic for

over 40 maybe 45 years now and his his

mantra and his whole life was uh nothing

I don't have anything and he has no side

effects from a disease that ravages

people's limbs and takes them they get

all kinds of blindness amputations nerve

damage he doesn't have anything because

he doesn't believe he's sick

you hit him right on my ice man yeah but

he's been my role model for all of them

must be a nice man too he is wonderful

nice man wise man intuitively taking the

writer wrote yeah so you suffered from a

modern disease like autoimmune diseases

defect somewhere what and we don't know

how to go in he uses the power of it you

should do this breathing I want him to

my dad would love this you know the

other thing I'm thinking of is I'm

hearing you talk is cryotherapy

so when cryotherapy there was a german

couple that came to Los Angeles and they

introduced cryotherapy here and I was

dancing and had shattered my feet and I

went and tried it and it was miraculous

because it took all the inflammation

down in the body so I could keep dancing

on broken feet rather than having to

take painkillers and all of these things

I would go cryotherapy freeze my body

negative 250 degrees and it would take

the inflammation down and I would do it

every day so that I could keep staying

in the competition so the cold isn't

just a gimmick and it wasn't even just a

way to teach you how to control your

autonomic nervous system the cold is

medicinal yes it is absolutely it

activates train stimulate the vascular

system and which is killer number one in

the u.s. cardiovascular system diseases

related and that's because

it has millions of little primitive

muscles and reflexes in the capillaries

it's like 80 thousand miles of blood

vessels we all every person have but

because we wear clothes

there is no stimulation going on thus

they don't work as good I know I didn't

know that yes so I always say like a

cold shower a day keeps the doctor away

you know just keep it simple and it's

not impossible you know what if you

if you do that then within a week you

see a big difference in taking the same

culture hour

why because you're up toned the tone is

of the these primitive muscles and

reflexes all over these 80,000 miles

another thing is when they our go to

help because the condition is bettered

of these muscles like training a muscle

then suddenly you are able to weigh more

or the blood flow is just simply gone

better be help heart rate is going

drastically down so lot less stress

already for the body just for the cold

shower just a cold shower and the immune

cells 7 billion cells we have and a lot

of immune cells they are better fat with

oxygen nutrients for their vitamins or

minerals cold shower day takes doctor

way Wow and trades the mind when you go

and so now I'm going to take a cold

shower then you train your mind and what

happens did you do the brain-body

connection with this 80,000 miles it's

going to go to up tone the vascular

system and then the body core

temperature which needs to remain at a

certain a good temperature a blood

temperature 37 degrees in the Celsius I

don't know 98.6 exactly and it remains

over there because it closes and you did

it with your mind and once you learn to

do that consciously you begin to become

you are go to begin to become aware that

you are able to control much more

systems the other thing I'm thinking

about is

with your breathing technique it's like

I think that the only times we breathe

in life or when we're doing an activity

if we're running if we're at the gym if

we're playing football if we're dancing

otherwise we don't really breathe as a

public as a general public we don't

breathe unless we're doing yoga unless

we're doing something that's making us

breathe and I think that's why the

stress is all over the place because

we're not breathing and that's probably

why this is so medicinal yes right like

when you breathe if you take a deep

breath I was learning this weekend your

your lungs push down and massage your

organs and it's like a it's like a

healing thing yes it all is there

because of a lifestyle

we are not stimulative to word our own

body and mind thus it becomes weaker and

the condition is less and that's stress

that causes stress and most of the

people live most of the day in stress

most in a condition where they should

not be in and that's why we get sick and

that's why we get sick and shaking this

is a signal it should not be suppressed

the signal that's what we do with

medicines and pills we should know that

no we should change our lifestyle yes

and become more aware of this brain-body

connection and then being able to

maintain help happy doesn't strike so

true we come back guys we're going to

take a short break when we come back I

want to talk to you about not only just

doing it for yourself is it possible to

use your mind to heal other people

because I believe I think I know the

answer to that but I want to know what

you think guys we'll be right back with

wim HOF aka The Iceman conversation with

Maria Menounos guys we are back with wim

HOF aka the ice and I'm looking at the

clock 16 minutes and I want to cry

because I want to talk to you for 50

more hours but we did break with the the

notion of or the question of can you

also use this powerful mind to help heal

others like tell me what you think about

that oh yes then I can

many miracles have witnessed now and the

miracle to simply bring people back to

their own deeper awareness of their own

physiology and physiology means our

brain that that's a hump of meat but the

mind which is unseen is able to go

within and activate awaken there the

healing power as in plasticity in the

body as in neuro plasticity in the brain

I see it's so so so many times and you

have to go back actually to a mother

who's dealing with a little kid baby it

was sick she begins to care for the way

her attention is there mm-hmm that's our

focus that our believing that our being

and as our love and most of their terms

we are able to heal the baby with that

power but because we got so complicated

in our behavior and everything going on

we have two distinct the mind more to

show that that it is not mingling with

everything now go back and learn to

activate and become conscious of it and

like our cares of Paracelsus did if the

doctor is really within these are simply

tools within us which we have and need

to ignite at the moment when we become

sick when we become sick we get signals

and it says it cries idler get back come

to me

I need you that's what it says any

animal in the world goes and retrieves

itself what we do we keep on thinking

and we have to do this and that enough

does neurologically we are not

connecting with what is going on and we

lose we don't use it we lose it so I'm

here to tell you studies that we are

able to heal ourselves to activate the

neuroplasticity in in the brain

in order for us not needing to open up

the brain to do repair the damage or

anywhere else in the body and so I say

yes here if you learn to do it on your

own which I did

then you will automatically have the

ability to hear to bring this power of

the mind over to others if you had

hypothetical situation if you had cancer

right now if you had a brain tumor how

would you handle it yes I would have

become with the knowledge of today you

can almost visualize what cancer is and

it needs an acidic environment and it's

because we do not breathe well deep

enough shallow and we exert all with all

the energy the metabolism in the cell

becoming cancerous because there is no

oxygen anymore is no energy anymore and

then it becomes obviously anaerobic yes

it becomes an aerobic and once it

becomes an aerobic becomes independent

and it's actually in a natural mechanism

so the way I treated I go to the cut

back to the core and become completely

say in this i connect I connect with

what is acidic I've shown that we are

able to go past higher walls in our

lymphatic system which is everywhere but

we could not get into it and that work

becomes in acidic there which is the

cause of it all we are able now and we

showed it in a large study to invigorate

it with oxygen and to make the

mitochondria oxygen tension go up does

acidity is gone and if you make the

acidity go away then you break the chain

for the cancer cell to be flat it's

logical and then we got our intention

and with the intention we are able to

program

gene it'd be jeans and with the genes in

the immune cells we are able to go

within the marrow which we have shown

within a quarter of our the specific

immune system going directly to the

bacteria not creating fever all over now

just very specifically go to the 2d cell

and cause apoptosis which is cell that

and that's what the cancer needs a very

precise answer of the specific immune

system and we are able with our mind

once it is exercised to connect with the

deeper layers of this specific immune

system the T cells and B cells and thus

getting nowhere heal them give them the

information and program them to do so

but now this is all hypothetically but I

saw a lot of miracles already but only

really true when we get through science

now who is interested to take it on with

me in the scientific world who is

listening right now because I am sure

this this work I thought many times but

we in the West we need signs to back it

up so that it can go to the mass it

doesn't make money it doesn't make money

it brings health and what do we want

that's my question back to the listeners

do we really want health it right so I'm

challenging why don't you do a GoFundMe

page to get people because the entire

world would get behind this because

pharmaceutical companies never will and

anybody who's really greedy won't

because they want to create they're

saying you know to make money off of but

if you did a GoFundMe page we could

advertise it here everybody would get

behind it to create the money please

daddy help me because four years ago I

thought I showed the world something

which was never shown in medical history

we changed the books in the u.s. in

biology and for the new physicians full

chapter about the endocrine system the

autonomic nervous system and innate

immune

and now it's becoming mainstream

knowledge you've got to be alerted you

know but I want to go on show more that

we are able to do so much more than we

think more being taught is used at mind

power the power of the mind to learn to

become happy strong and healthy

completely imbalanced and and learn

about spirituality like every moment it

should be spiritual like it it's great

to be alive mm-hmm this is the most

beautiful place of their whole universe

I know asteroids see they taught me yes

then finally I got shut up I'm a

professor I'm a doctor I'm this I'm that

then I mean asteroid I'm up in there in

space I look around it's lifeless it's

cold it's nothing I look down Wow

and that's here and that's why we live

but do are we aware of that fact

are we being taught that this is the

most beautiful place that we should be a

one with the essential of life like a

little kid not arithmetic Hollow only no

happiness strengthened and and health

should be the new subjects and the new

schools for every child to learn and

every child is able to adopt this it's

not difficult but and then never lose

track of the core to be able to have an

answer when things like cancer

depression and autoimmune diseases and

mood disorders are happening you got me

mm-hmm that's why so I challenge anybody

please help me show it scientifically

because we can believe but the

mainstream is in disbelief that it is

impossible we are being taught it's

impossible we are being taught it's

normal to have hospitals pharmacies and

all that I say it's sick we are

maintaining it because it has maybe a

lot to do with one mammalian thing I

want power and money and made this and

and that's why everybody is blind about

it and it would be manipulated or

something but I'm here listen it's not

mine it's nature and nature the answer

of so much but we need to validate it

through science and I'm here to are

already shown things in that in medical

history were not able for a human to do

and now I'm showing it in the

neuroscience in the brain but it's not

me it's nature calling upon us we messed

up with the nature and now nature is

showing us once again live in harmony

with the nature still be stimulated by

the nature and you become happy like the

Garden of Eden it's right over here

hmmmm yes yeah so there we are otherwise

all we know so so you're saying that

because I want to get back because I

know a lot of people who are listening

because my mom is dealing with a brain

tumor and a lot of people who are

listening have called in with their

stories of cancer and one one woman who

listens to the show just got melanoma

yesterday are you saying that with these

breathing practices all of these things

will be activated in the body that will

go help stimulate the mitochondria that

will stimulate the healing yeah yeah

absolutely

absolutely this is absolutely one of the

biggest pillars of this is the breathing

I just had to do it yeah sure

oh yeah it's for three or my website

okay yeah you get all the basics and you

get all the scientific endorsement

behind it I also read about Keith Curtis

this book how he healed from stage four

cancer he came in 2007 to me and we did

here a very near on Malibu a workshop I

did together with her and he came to me

personally and he had stage four cancer

skin cancer very aggressive and he had

only a couple of months to live so he

was told by the doctors yeah that's it

four months five months that's it he was

a very successful good-looking man a you

know all-american

he's got it uh-oh but he's got cancer

you got nothing

yes and where is that control what do

you do that no then he took it I told

him listen there is more than meat here

and I've shown it and there is a lot

more so what they tell is from the books

it's not from a they didn't experience

this is piled up it's a power system

going on and don't be don't confuse

yourself a cancer needs an acidic

environment simple and what we do is

bring in more oxygen in the tissue in

the lymphatic system does you change the

chemistry and there is more if food

should be alkaline as well so very and

you believe the neurology should be

there completely that you are able to

tap into the deepest of the physiology

make the change as a plumber does with

constipation at all don't make it too

far away

don't make it too difficult it is a non

sentimental phenomena from nature if you

are not present something will take over

yeah you if you go back then you are

able to remove it we got the tools

nature is telling us if we don't listen

then it very it looks aggressive and we

get a lot of sentimentality around it

but actually we got the tools to take it

away and I want more science behind it

not Steve Curtis he wrote a book about

it and he is still living and he's

completely sane how long has he been

like 10 years ago Wow instead of 4

months to live and then he went back to

the doctors they don't listen they don't

list they are in the system in the power

infrastructure whatever it is they don't

want a waiver from their beliefs and I

tell it's time for new beliefs because

they say unless it's scientifically

proven we can't get behind it Yeah right

so any time I bring up to my

my mom's oncologist these other

techniques these other things I mean

even just changing her diet they were

like don't bother we see you family's

always starving these patients of sugar

it's not it doesn't make any sense and

they're like you know there are no

studies this is their quote all the time

there are no studies to prove that so

they need studies to prove any of this

before they'll believe it once again I

want to challenge anybody in this

community who is listening right now to

help me because it's not about money

this is about nature coming to cents and

I want to go through signs to sands

again make it simple we got the tools we

got the tools to make skin temperature

not going down by just by using the mind

it's not a trick I can learn teach these

things anybody and then you are not only

talking about aggressive say high school

could be eat it could be stress it could

be back cells bacteria viruses cancer

anything that's my belief but I showed a

whole lot already but still I want to

validate it through sign help us their

duties sorry how do they help you

research I know I know everyone already

wants to how do they help you out it is

I'm doing right now with a for example

with a Michigan a Wayne State University

neuroscience department with them I do

this study and they were they are

applying for a grant if we go to your

website can we get animation and know

this is so direct it's only yesterday I

have received mail with older the data

everything is really going on but I

don't to much just go to my mail I will

put something up on our website as well

to help direct you guys guys you can

find them on Twitter and Instagram at I

smell underscore HOF to learn more about

his method visit

wim wim hof HOF method calm or to put

that up on our website as well

and I'm going to get to the bottom of

exactly how you can get behind this and

how you can help because we all want

this help when you are a pleasure thank

you so much for what you are doing

because you're not just doing it for you

you're doing it for all of us so thank

you for being courageous and for all of

your great work guys because people make

good choices