How to Optimize Your Water Quality & Intake for Health | Huberman Lab Podcast

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Andrew Huberman: Welcome to the Huberman Lab podcast, where we discuss science and

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science-based tools for everyday life.

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I'm Andrew Huberman, and I'm a professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology

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at Stanford School of Medicine.

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Today we're discussing water.

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Now, to some of you, water might seem like a boring topic, but I assure you

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that water is anything but a boring topic.

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In fact, water as a substance is incredibly interesting for a variety

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of reasons that I'll explain today.

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In fact, we are going to discuss the physics and chemistry of water, and

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I promise to make it accessible to anyone and everyone regardless of

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whether or not you have a physics or chemistry background, and I will

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discuss how your body needs and utilizes water depending on what type

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of water you drink, the temperature of that water, when you drink the water,

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and indeed how you drink that water.

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Now, water is actually a pretty controversial topic.

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In fact, in preparing for this episode, which took me several months, in

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fact, I ran into highly contradictory information and had to go on some real

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deep dives in order to ferret out the best and most accurate knowledge for you.

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I also found that there are generally two camps of people out there

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in terms of how they think about water and the consumption of water.

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One camp generally speaking, is of the mind that tap water is completely safe.

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Perhaps it needs a little bit of filtering, but that in most areas

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of the world, if it runs out of the tap, and unless there's a warning

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sign directly above the faucet, that you can drink the tap water.

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The other camp seems to be the camp that does not trust anything that comes

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out of the tap and is excited by and in fact, relies on things like reverse

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osmosis, deuterium depleted, hydrogen rich, or other forms of water that

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sometimes can be very expensive or at least involve some substantial steps

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in order to clean, filter, alter the chemistry of, or in some other way, adjust

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before they are willing to consume it.

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So today what we're going to try and do is to address all the stances around water.

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For instance, we will discuss whether or not tap water is indeed safe, and I

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will give you some tools that will allow you to address whether or not the water

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coming out of your tap is safe, as well as some tools that will allow you to

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address how to clean that water if indeed it does need filtering and cleaning.

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In particular for things like fluorides and endocrine disruptors, which it turns

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out, are quite prominent in a lot, not all, but a lot of tap water sources.

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I will also talk about the more "esoteric forms of water" that

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I mentioned a few minutes ago.

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So I will go systematically through the list of distilled reverse osmosis,

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spring water, deuterium depleted water, high pH water, and for those

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of you that are already screaming out as you hear this, oh no, he's going

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to tell us that pH water can alter the pH of our body in helpful ways.

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I'm not going to tell you that, but I will tell you that the alkalinity or acidity of

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the water that is the pH of the water that you drink has a profound impact on your

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ability to absorb and utilize that water and the impact that those water molecules

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have on specific biological systems.

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So it turns out pH is very important, but not for the reasons that you've

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probably heard about previously.

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I'll talk about how the temperature of water that you drink does indeed turn

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out to be important for the rate of absorption of that water and its impact

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on the cells, tissues, and organs of your body, and thereby your health.

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And I will talk about various zero cost and low cost tools that you

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can use in order to get the most out of the water that you drink.

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And finally, I will talk about when and how to hydrate your body best.

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Before we dive into today's topic, I wanna share with you some very

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interesting results that were just published on the use of deliberate

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cold exposure to benefit fat loss.

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Now, deliberate cold exposure is a topic I've covered before on this podcast.

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We have an entire episode about that, that I've linked in the show note captions.

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Deliberate cold exposure can be done by way of cold showers or immersion

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in cold or ice water up to the neck.

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That's typically the ways that it's done.

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It has been shown to reduce inflammation, to increase metabolism, and I think some

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of the most exciting results that have been published are the results certainly

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in humans showing that deliberate cold exposure can increase the release of

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so-called catecholamines, which are dopamine, norepinephrine, and epinephrine.

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And those increases in those three molecules are quite long lasting

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and lead to substantial increases in mood and focus throughout the day.

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Now, many people out there hear about deliberate cold exposure and cringe.

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Other people hear about it and cringe because they've heard that deliberate cold

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exposure, especially by way of immersion in water, can block the adaptation

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to strength or hypertrophy training.

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What I mean by that is yes, indeed there are data showing that if one gets into

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very cold water up to the neck in the six hours, anytime that is in the six hours

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after strength or hypertrophy training, that some of the strength and hypertrophy

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increases that one would observe, are blocked by that deliberate cold exposure.

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However, after six hours does not seem to be a problem.

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So it can be done on other days besides the strength and hypertrophy training.

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It can be done before strength and hypertrophy training.

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It can be done after endurance work.

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And I should mention that it does not appear that cold showers disrupt the

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adaptations to strength and hypertrophy training, even if they're done immediately

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after strength or hypertrophy training.

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Okay, with that said, many people do enjoy the effects of deliberate cold exposure,

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in particular for those increases in mood and alertness that are the consequence

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of those increases in the catecholamine, dopamine, norepinephrine, and epinephrine.

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And again, those increases are very long lasting.

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So it's not just during the exposure to cold.

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It is for several hours up to four, maybe even five or six hours,

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depending on how cold and how long the deliberate cold exposure happens to be.

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Again, there's a lot to say and explore about deliberate cold exposure.

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So again, I'll just refer you to the episode on deliberate cold exposure.

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If you want to explore the mechanisms and the positive health outcomes,

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some of the controversies within the data, etc., within that episode.

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Meanwhile, I definitely want to share with you the results of this

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recent study that just came out.

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The title of this study is "Impact of Cold Exposure on Life Satisfaction

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and Physical Composition of Soldiers".

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The reason this study is very interesting is that it's one of the few studies

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that used, or I should say, explored both deliberate cold exposure by

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immersion in cold water, as well as deliberate cold exposure by way of cold

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showers as it relates to weight loss.

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Now, there's already data out there on the effects of deliberate cold exposure

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and metabolism, and here I'm mainly referring to the beautiful work of Dr.

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Susanna Søberg and colleagues in Scandinavia that showed that people that

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do 11 minutes total of deliberate cold exposure by immersion and cold water

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up to the neck per week, so 11 minutes per week total, spread out across some

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different sessions by way of getting into water that's uncomfortably cold up to the

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neck, and then getting out and then doing that several times per week to hit that

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11 minutes or more threshold, and, this is very important, we'll come up in a

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moment in the context of this new study, and warming up not by getting into a warm

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shower, which is frankly what I do after my cold showers or getting into the ice

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bath or cold water immersion, but rather forcing their body to warm up naturally

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by using its own metabolic abilities.

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In those studies, they observed substantial increases in brown fat stores,

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which are fat stores that you really want around the heart, and clavicles increases

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in metabolism that were quite dramatic in my opinion, and that could be very

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beneficial for allowing people to feel more comfortable at cold temperatures when

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they're not in cold water and on and on.

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So lots of benefits shown in that study.

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In this study, what I thought was particularly interesting is, again,

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they explored both immersion in cold water and cold showers, and the

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duration of cold exposure that they found led to substantial fat loss,

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especially around the abdomen, was very brief, deliberate cold exposure.

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Let me give you a few details about this study.

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The study involved 49 subjects that include both males and females.

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This is also really important.

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The beautiful work of Susanna Søberg and colleagues, as far

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as I know, only looked at males.

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This study looked at males and females.

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They were 19 to 30 years old, and there basically were two groups, people who

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either were assigned to get deliberate cold exposure, or they were not

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assigned to deliberate cold exposure.

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The form of deliberate cold exposure involved one session per week of cold

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immersion in cold water up to the neck.

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And to just give you a sense of how cold it was, it was 3 degrees

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Celsius, which translates to about 37.5 degrees Fahrenheit.

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That's pretty darn cold, but it was only for two minutes.

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Okay, so one session at 3 degrees Celsius, otherwise known as 37.4 degrees Fahrenheit

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for two minutes every week, once a week.

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In addition, the same subjects did five cold showers per week, or a

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minimum of five cold showers per week.

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And those cold showers were slightly warmer than the

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immersion in cold water condition.

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So they were 10 degrees Celsius approximately, or 50 degrees

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Fahrenheit, still pretty cold.

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And the duration of that cold water exposure in the shower

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was just for 30 seconds.

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Okay, so this is interesting to me because many people don't have

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access to cold water immersion.

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They might not have an ice bath or any place they can do that, but

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they, most people do have access to a cold shower of some sort.

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Plus, I think most people could do probably one ice bath per

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week or find a place where they could get into cold water safely.

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Now, I should point out that some people will not do well going

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into 37.5 degree Fahrenheit, aka 3 degrees Celsius water, having never

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done anything like this before.

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So if you're going to try and employ these sorts of protocols that were used

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in the study, I do recommend that you ease into it over the course of a week

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or so and become somewhat adapted to the, the shock of cold water exposure.

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So maybe start at, you know, 50 degrees Fahrenheit, kind of ease

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your way back in terms of the cold water immersion, especially.

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Now, another critical feature of this study is, as with the beautiful

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work by Susanna Søberg, the subjects were told to warm up naturally

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after the deliberate cold exposure.

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So they basically hung out outside of the cold water immersion or outside of

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the cold shower for 10 minutes after they were exposed to the cold in their

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bathing suit, or I'm, I'm assuming they were wearing something, but the point is

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that you are not going from deliberate cold exposure directly into a hot shower

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or a sauna or something of that sort.

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So again, their bodies were forced to heat up again naturally after the deliberate

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cold exposure, but after the 10 minute period, they were able to do whatever they

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wanted, essentially, reclothe, take a warm shower, and so on and go about their day.

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Now the results of this deliberate cold exposure protocol, again, 2

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minutes in cold immersion at 3 degrees Celsius, 37.5 degrees Fahrenheit,

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plus 5 cold showers per week of 2 minutes long, a little bit warmer, 10

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degrees Celsius, 50 degrees Fahrenheit.

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Now, the deliberate cold exposure used in this study caused

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many different statistically significant positive changes.

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They had a very extensive questionnaire that related to mood, everything

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from levels of anxiety to sexual satisfaction, and on and on.

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In fact, they saw a statistically significant improvement in sexual

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satisfaction in the subjects that were exposed to deliberate cold exposure.

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Not in the control group, although they didn't look at this, chances are those

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improvements in sexual satisfaction were the downstream consequence of

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the known increases in testosterone and free testosterone that occur

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in both men and women who do the sorts of deliberate cold exposure.

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Again, testosterone being an important hormone for libido in both men and women.

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They also saw improvements in regulation of anxiety, which I think is very

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interesting given that the deliberate cold exposure often causes people anxiety.

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But here and in other studies we've seen it can lead to an better ability

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to buffer against anxiety in the normal happenings of everyday life.

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Perhaps the most interesting and significant results that they found

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in the study however, were that in particular in men, there was a reduction

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in waste circumference following 8 weeks of this deliberate cold exposure,

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as well as a 5.5% on average, 5.5% reduction in abdominal fat, that

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was quite statistically significant when compared to the other groups.

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Now, why there was no observed reduction in abdominal fat or waist circumference

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in the female subjects isn't clear.

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Could have to do with just the way that body fat is stored and

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metabolized in females versus males.

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That is going to be a topic for future exploration.

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So I do think the study is very interesting because when you look at

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the landscape of science and discussion around deliberate cold exposure, I

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think there's a general consensus now that deliberate cold exposure

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can change one's sense of mood and wellbeing through this increases in

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catecholamines that I mentioned earlier.

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But the impact on metabolism itself has been somewhat controversial because the

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overall changes in metabolism that are observed while statistically significant

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in many studies, have not ever really been shown to translate into weight loss or

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body fat loss in any kind of specific way.

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And of course, a great advantage of this study is that by exploring soldiers,

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they were able to really hold constant a number of other features like the amount

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of daily activity that those soldiers are exposed to, their diet, their living

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conditions, and so on and so forth.

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So at least insofar as human studies are done, it's a, it's

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a very well controlled study.

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We'll provide a link to the study in the show note captions.

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And for those of you that are thinking about employing the protocol that's

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used in this particular paper, or combining it with existing deliberate

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cold exposure protocols, to me it seems pretty straightforward in

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of pretty minimal time investment.

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Just 2 minutes of deliberate cold exposure by way of water immersion

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up to the neck, and 5 times a week of 30 seconds each of deliberate

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cold exposure by way of cold shower.

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And just a quick mention about cold showers.

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If you're going to use cold showers to do deliberate cold exposure,

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you're going to want to stand under the shower itself, right?

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And essentially have it hit your head, the back of your neck and your upper

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back, which is where most of your brown fat stores are concentrated.

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And it turns out that cold exposure to those regions of the body in particular,

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are going to trigger the adaptation of increased brown fat stores, which involves

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increases in mitochondria in those fat.

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Again, this is not the blubbery fat beneath the skin.

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This is the fat that acts as kind of an oil in the furnace that is your

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thermogenic properties of your body to generate heat and burn off so-called white

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adipose tissue elsewhere in the body.

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Now, anyone that understands the laws of physics and thermodynamics will be

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saying, wait, in order to get fat loss, you need to have a caloric deficit.

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Calories in, calories out still applies.

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And yes, that's absolutely true.

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We can only conclude on the basis of the results of this study that the people that

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lost body fat were indeed in a caloric deficit, presumably because all other

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factors were held more or less constant in this group of soldiers, presumably

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because the deliberate cold exposure itself elevated metabolism, thereby

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increasing the calories out component of the calories in calories out equation,

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which of course, governs the rules of weight loss and body fat loss as well.

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Let's talk about water, and let's start off by answering

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the question, what is water?

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Water is of course H₂O, most everybody knows that from an early age, but what

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H₂O means is that each molecule of water consists of two hydrogens and one oxygen.

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Now, the physical arrangement of those two hydrogens and one oxygen turns out

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to be really important for how water functions in the body, and frankly,

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elsewhere in our world and life, if you were to make a peace symbol, that

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is to put up your index finger and your middle finger simultaneously.

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In fact, I'm gonna recommend you do that now, unless you're using your

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hands for something else important.

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In which case do it later.

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Well, if you make that piece symbol and you look at your hand, you have a pretty

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good impression of what an individual water molecule consists of, which is

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H₂O two hydrogens and an oxygen and, with that piece symbol, the fingers

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or the tips of your fingers rather are gonna represent the hydrogens.

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Your fingers, that is the length of each of those fingers is going to represent

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the electron bonds to the oxygen and the palm of your hand and the fingers that are

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down are going to represent the oxygen.

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Okay?

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Now, what's important about that visual impression or visual

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image of the individual water molecule is that it is polarized.

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That is the hydrogen's over on one side.

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Both of them are over on one side and the oxygen is over on another.

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And what's really important about water molecules being polarized is

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that they can bind to one another by way of that polarization.

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And this has to do with something that we all kind of learned in chemistry

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at one point, but many of us forgot.

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Maybe we didn't even understand it the first time around, which is that

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positives and negatives attract.

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So when you have individual water molecules, they have the opportunity

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to interact and essentially bind to one another and they bind through

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what are called covalent bonds.

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Covalent bonds are relatively weak bonds, and so as a consequence,

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water can change its confirmation.

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However, covalent bonds are strong enough that water actually can maintain some

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structure and that structure will vary, of course, depending on its temperature.

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So, what you need to know about water is that indeed it consists

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of lots of individual H₂O , and those H₂O can arrange themselves in

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different ways, and that temperature is a strong determinant of the

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arrangement of those water molecules.

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That is, they're bonding to one another.

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And in fact, even they're spacing between those bonds.

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So again, even if you don't have any chemistry, stay with me because

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you'll definitely understand this.

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Water can exist in at least 3 forms and maybe 4 forms.

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We know that it can be liquid, of course.

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That's really what normally what we think of when we think of water.

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It can be gas, so we think of steam, right?

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So if you heat it up, it takes on a not a semi-solid or a semi-liquid form, it

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takes on this property of steam or gas.

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Okay?

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So when you see steam or when you breathe on a cold day through your

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mouth or through your nose and you see your air, those are water molecules

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that are condensing, that is bonding in certain ways, based on differences

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in temperature between the inside of your body and the outside air.

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And of course it can be a solid, it can be ice.

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Now, ice is fascinating and important in understanding how water works, and

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this will become relevant later when we think about how water works within

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the body as well, especially how different temperatures of water impact

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the health and behavior of our cells.

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And the most important point to understand about water in its solid state is that

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unlike most substances when water is in its solid state, it is actually less

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dense than when it's in its liquid state.

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So just think about that.

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Most substances, like most metals, for instance, when they are in a

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solid state, they're more dense than when they're in a liquid state.

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So, for instance, if they're in a solid state, they will sink in a container

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filled with their liquid form, not water.

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Water is very interesting because as you cool water and water

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transitions from a liquid to a solid.

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It still binds.

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That is, it can form bonds between those different molecules of water, but the

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spacing between those H₂O , so again, those peace symbols with hands, so if you

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had a bunch of those, so if you had, you know, a thousand hands all making peace

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symbols, they can bond to one another.

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But when it's cold, those bonds are actually made

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further apart from one another.

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And as a consequence, ice, as we all know, floats in water.

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In other words, put very simply, water is unusual and special in that, in its

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solid form ice, it is actually less dense than when it's in its liquid form.

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And that's why ice floats in water.

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Now this is important not just to our biology, but to all of life.

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Because if you think about it, if it were not the case that water is less dense

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in its solid form ice than it is in its liquid form, the bottoms of our oceans

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would be covered with thick sheets of ice.

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And if that were the case, you can be absolutely sure that life would not

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exist on our planet the way that it does.

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And there's a good chance that we would not exist as a species because so much

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of what allows us to exist on this planet and the other animals to exist

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on this planet, relies on photosynthesis pathways in plants that are dependent on

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the sun and interactions with the oceans and lakes and other bodies of water.

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And of course, the ice caps are vitally important.

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That is the presence of ice, especially at the poles.

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But elsewhere, in bodies of water as well, so-called icebergs are a critical

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part of the ecosystem that allows for everything from photosynthesis

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to the ability of certain animals to extract food from each other

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and from their local resources.

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Now, there's a whole discussion to be had there, but the important point for

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now is that the physical properties of the bonds between water that are made and

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changed depending on temperature, turn out to be essential for us to be present

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on this planet at all and for our cells to function in the ways that they do for

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sake of health and for sake of disease.

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And we'll explore this later when we talk about the critical relationship

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between temperature pH, which is the relationship between alkalinity, how

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basic or acidity, how acid a given liquid, or in this case we're gonna

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be talking about water is and the ways that our cells can or can't use water.

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So I realize that this is fairly in depth for those of you that don't have

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much of a background in chemistry.

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I've tried to keep it really top contour, but if you can make a piece symbol or if

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you can just imagine a piece symbol in your mind and realize that that's a water

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molecule and that those water molecules combine to one another through bonds that

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are relatively strong, but weak enough that they can be broken if they need

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to, and that the temperature that those water molecules are exposed to changes

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the distance between those bonds and that's what allows ice to float in water,

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then you are gonna have no problem with the remainder of the discussion today.

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In fact, You will also have the ability to understand things that you've observed

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many times over, but perhaps have never thought about or really understood,

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which are, for instance, that water has a certain level of surface tension.

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For instance, if you've ever been to the ocean and the waves are coming in,

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what you'll notice is if you walk on the dry sand or gravel, pebbles that

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is of the ocean, it's very easy, right?

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I mean, the pebbles move down or the sand moves down.

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It depresses a little bit due to the weight of your body.

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But as you get closer to the water, you're gonna sink deeper because that

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sand is more saturated with water.

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But at some point, you won't be able to actually walk on top of the water, right?

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It has been said that Jesus walked on water.

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There's the so-called Jesus Christ lizard so named because it can

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actually walk on the surface of water.

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A leaf can float on the surface of water under some conditions.

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A coin can float on the surface of water.

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If you make coffee in the morning, you can actually take a spoonful of that

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hot coffee and pour a little bit on the surface of your coffee, and you'll

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notice that it will bead up, and you'll get little round spheres of water.

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Those are little water molecules bound to one another that spin on top of

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the surface before they sink under.

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That has everything to do with the bonding between water that's

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dependent on temperature, but also as with the difficulty for

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essentially everybody, to walk on water or for animals to walk on water.

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The surface tension of water allows certain things to float

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there or to stay at the surface.

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But there's a very thin layer of water molecules at the surface of

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water that are more dense than the water that resides at deeper depths.

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And that's why most things, including us sink in water,

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we are more dense than water.

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Now, I did mention earlier that there are 3 forms of water.

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Those are the ones that we all are familiar with, the solid

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liquid and gas forms of water.

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However, there are data mainly from Gerald Pollack laboratory at the

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University of Washington that have described the so-called fourth phase

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of water, which is structured water.

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And we'll get into this a little bit later because structured water has really

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been a prominent topic in the, let's call it the water health aficionados.

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It's a heavily debated topic as to whether or not structured water

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is somehow better for ourselves if it exists within our bodies.

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We'll get into that in full detail later.

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But the whole notion of structured water is that in the presence of

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certain solids or certain liquids, the confirmation of water that is the water

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molecules actually change somewhat.

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This has been demonstrated.

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Whether or not it has relevance to the biological function of

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our body is a different issue.

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But we know that there is this fourth phase of water called structured water.

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Structured water is a fairly complicated topic, but we can make it very simple

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for sake of today's discussion.

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I mentioned earlier that opposite polls attract that is positives and

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negatives attract, and typically, things that are negatively charged

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when presented with another negative charge either repel or don't attract.

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Things that are positively charged in the presence of another

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positive charge also tend to repel.

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This is the basis of magnets, either sticking to one another

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or repelling from one another.

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There's also the idea that human beings who are opposites attract,

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but that's a different episode that we need to do in the future.

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The point here is that structured water is a unique condition in which

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the local environment that these water molecules happen to be in allows

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positive charges between different water molecules to attract one another.

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So again, whereas normally it's positive and negatives that

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attract in the configuration that we call structured water.

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Positives and positives attract and form bonds that are stronger

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than the typical bonds that would be formed between water molecules.

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And just as it kind of prelude to our discussion about structured water,

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as it may or may not relate to health later, there are a number of people that

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believe that within the body, because of the presence of certain liquids

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and solids, that the water within our cells, and in particular within the

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interactions with so-called organelles, organelles are things like mitochondria.

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The Golgi apparatus, they have fancy names.

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These are, these are the things within cells that allow cells to do

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everything from make proteins to traffic proteins out to the surface of cells.

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Things like neurotransmitters and receptors and so on.

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A lot of people who are interested in structured water as it relates to

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biological function, have I hypothesized or like to debate rather whether or not

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in the body water is not just present in its liquid form or gaseous form.

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We know it's not present in its solid form unless you gulp down

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some ice cubes, for instance.

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But, There is a cohort of people out there, including some fairly accomplished

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scientists that believe that within the body, the organelles of our cells act as

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a substrate for water to exist in this fourth form, this structured water form.

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And that's led to this whole niche industry of people, who are

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proponents of consuming so-called structured water, and again, we'll

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get to that a little bit later.

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So now you know what individual water molecules consist of when you hear H₂O

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hopefully you'll get that visual image in your mind of an individual water

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molecule being the peace symbol and a bunch of those binding to one another

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through these relatively weak bonds, but strong enough that certain things

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can take place like surface tension.

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Keep in mind that surface tension of water may relate to either standard

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bonds between water or this fourth phase.

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That's heavily debated still, but we certainly know that for instance, if

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you were to take a piece of wax paper or glass and you were to pour some

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water on it, you would notice that the water would beat up or kind of

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aggregate at particular locations.

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When you see that beating up or the aggregation of water

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molecules on a particular surface, you're seeing two things.

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This is actually kind of fun.

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The next time you see it, you'll know that the, the aggregation, the beating

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up of water with itself, so individual water molecules or many water molecules

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kind of aggregating at one location and making a bead of water that's due

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to these bonds, these covalent bonds occurring between water molecules.

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Also, you'll notice that on a vertical pane of glass, say in rain or on your

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windshield, that the water will look almost like it's sticking to the glass.

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And that's because there are actually bonds between the water molecules that

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have beat it up themselves and the glass.

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So water can not just bind to itself.

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It can also bind to certain surfaces.

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And the fact that perhaps if you drive your car, if you were to tap the window,

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or if a big enough bead of water formed on a window that it would start to drip down.

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And that's because those bonds with the surface are strong, but they're

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not so strong that it stick at that location quite different than water

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that is in its solid form ice that can actually really adhere if you've ever

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had to scrape ice off a windshield.

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So for you, those of you who live in cold regions, you're familiar with this,

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scrape ice off a windshield, you realize that the bonds between water in its solid

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form and different services is quite a bit stronger than the bonds between

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different water molecules with each other.

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Or the bonds between water and different surfaces when they're warmer.

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Okay, so I do realize that for a lot of people listening, that's gonna be

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a pretty deep dive into the chemistry and physical properties of water.

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But all you really need to know is that these water molecules are incredibly

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versatile and can bind to each other, and can bind to different surfaces,

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and can allow things to float or to sink or even to move across surfaces of

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water based on the three, perhaps four different, states that water can be in.

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And that versatility that you observe in the natural world on window pans and rain

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and clouds and hail and ice and snow and scraping ice off your windshield in the

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cold of winter and perspiration and so on.

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All of that is fine and good, but realize that almost all of those same

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sorts of properties of water become extremely relevant when thinking about

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how your body actually utilizes water.

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And the key thing here is that temperature and the so-called alkalinity or acidity

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that is the pH of water turn out to be very important determinants of how

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water is used by the cells of your body.

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In fact, as I'll describe in a moment, we have entire sets of biological mechanisms

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solely devoted to trying to get water into our cells in very specific ways, including

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at specific rates and to use water in different ways because as you've probably

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heard before, we are mostly water.

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What's kind of interesting to me and what I found researching this episode

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is that the percentages of our cells and bodies that are purported to

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be water is a pretty broad range.

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Some people say we're 55% water.

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Other people will say We're 70% water.

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Some people will say We're 95% water.

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The exact percentage doesn't matter so much.

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And really just boils down to whether or not the person that's stating that

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percentage is talking about how much water is present in our cells and body

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at a given moment versus how much water was involved in the process of creating

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the sorts of proteins and other things of our body that are required to have

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hair, cell skin cells, brain cells, etc.

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So if you really want a number out there, I can't give you a single

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number if you wanna be accurate, it's gonna have to be a range.

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And basically we are anywhere from 70% to 90% water depending

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on how you define being water.

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That is whether or not you're talking about water being present in cells

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in its liquid form or maybe in this fourth structure water form.

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If you're, of the mind that that exists within us and whether or not

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you're talking about water that was used to create a given protein, like

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a receptor or a neurotransmitter, or whether or not you're talking about

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the water, just being water as H₂O.

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Okay, so again, it's very easy to go down that rabbit hole, and this is

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part of the reason why there's such a wide discrepancy of assertions

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as to how much of us is water.

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But let's be direct.

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Most of our body is water, and there isn't a single other molecule in the

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universe that we can look to and say that it has as important a role in our health

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and biology and frankly, our presence of life on earth at all than water.

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Okay, so now at a minimum, everyone out there should understand that

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water has a particular structure.

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So when you hear H₂O, you can kind of imagine that structure and that the water

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molecules can change their confirmation.

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That is they can bind to other water molecules and it turns out they bind

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to other things and actually change the confirmation of other things.

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A good example of that is something we're all familiar with, which is

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water's ability to dissolve certain substances like sugar or salt.

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And that is because salt molecules or sugar molecules

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are what we call hydrophilic.

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They like water.

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And when we say they like water, it just means that the chemical structure of

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salt, sodium, or the chemical structure of say, sucrose like table sugar, can

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actually interact with the hydrogens and oxygens of water and can change

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those salt molecules or sugar molecules, turning them from solid into liquid.

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Essentially creating what are called solids, which is basically the dissolving

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of solids into liquid solutions.

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In fact, water is one of the best solvents on the planet.

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In fact, water is better at dissolving many solids than is acid.

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All right? That's how incredible water is.

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And there are a number of reasons related to the chemistry of

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water that can explain that.

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But as we transition from talking about the physics and chemistry of water to

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how water actually behaves within our body and contributes to our health or

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to disease depending on the case, it's important to understand that molecules

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such as sugar and salt can be hydrophilic.

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Or as we know, oil and water don't mix.

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That's because oil's, lipids are so-called hydrophobic.

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What's hydrophobic?

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We'll, just think "Ahh" phobic.

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Certain molecules such as lipids don't dissolve well in water.

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And we all intuitively understand that if you take some olive oil, for

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instance, and you put it into a little glass of water, it'll likely float or

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beat up or form little spherical or amoeba like shapes within the water.

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And that's because oil lipids are hydrophobic.

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So different substances out there are either going to be more hydrophilic.

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That is they are going to have a greater propensity to interact with water and

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bind with the different aspects of the water molecules or hydrophobic to

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have less of a propensity to interact with and bind with water molecules.

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And I've sort of been alluding to this numerous times throughout this podcast

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already, the temperature of water and the pH that is the alkalinity or acidity

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of water will have a strong impact on whether or not a hydrophilic or

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hydrophobic substance will have a greater or lesser tendency to interact with water.

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You all know this intuitively as well.

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If you've ever tried to dissolve say a big tablespoon of sugar in very cold

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water, you'll notice that the grains don't dissolve as quickly as when you take that

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big tablespoon of sugar and put it into a warm or hot cup of water, and that's

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because the temperature of water actually changes how well that sugar molecule

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is able to change its confirmation and interact with the water molecules.

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Likewise, if you want to get something that's really hydrophilic into an

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aqueous, that is a water containing solution, the temperature is also

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going to strongly impact that.

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Now, there are a near infinite number of examples of how temperature

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in pH impact the tendency of hydrophilic and hydrophobic substances

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to dissolve in water or not.

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We're not gonna go into all those details, but as we migrate from our discussion

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about the physics and chemistry of water into how water behaves within our body,

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which is what we're gonna do now, and then as we continue into the third part of our

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discussion, which is why and how certain types of water that some of you are

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familiar with, like different pH water, distilled water, reverse osmosis water,

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why those different types of water are thought to and in some cases do in fact

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change the ways that our cells function, for better or for worse, all of that will

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come together and make sense for you.

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Okay?

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So all the cells of your body, every cell, even your bones, that is the osteoblasts

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and the other cells within your bones, your bone marrow, your red blood cells,

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your white blood cells, your neurons, your nerve cells, your liver cells, your

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kidney cells, all of them require water.

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In order to get the proper amount of water into those cells, there are basically two

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ways that water can access those cells.

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Now, if we zoom out for a second and ask ourselves, how does

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water actually get into the body?

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Most of us just think, oh, well, we drink that water into our body.

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Of course, that's the main way we can also breathe water molecules

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into our body through humid air.

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When you hydrate your cells, that is when you're bringing water into your cells,

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that water needs to move from your gut and into the bloodstream and eventually into

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the individual cells, whatever cell type that may be, and they're basically two

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ways that water can access those cells.

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The first way has been known about for a very long time, and

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that is so-called diffusion.

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Now, the outside of most cells is made up of fatty stuff, lipid.

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So for instance, neurons, nerve cells have a lipid bilayer.

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It's two layers of fat, and you already know that fat lipid is very hydrophobic.

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Okay?

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Now that turns out to be not a problem, but a solution for how water

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can get across that lipid barrier.

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Why?

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It is the fact that water can change its confirmation and lipids can change their

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confirmation just enough so that the bonds between water and the bonds between

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those hydrophobic lipids can interact, allowing the water molecule to basically

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pass through the lipid because it can bond very weakly or in some cases, not at

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all, but very weakly to those lipids and then be pushed through to the other side.

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Really incredible.

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If you think about it, if there was too much of a hydrophobic relationship between

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the lipid and the water, the water would come up to the surface of that fatty

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outside of our cells, and then would be repelled away from it, or it would

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just stay there right at the surface.

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And that would be no good because we actually need that water to

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diffuse across the cell membranes, or actually it's a double cell membrane,

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as I mentioned before, two layers.

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So water and lipids of cells can interact with just enough affinity

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that the water molecule can diffuse across those cell membrane barriers.

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But, and this is an important but, the diffusion of water molecules across

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those lipid barriers on the outsides of cells is a fairly slow process compared

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to the other way that water accesses cells and this other way that water

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accesses cells is really something that was just discovered about 10 years ago.

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So this is a fairly recent discovery, but turns out to be a fundamental

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discovery, which is the presence of water called aquaporin channels.

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Aquaporin channels are basically portals through the membrane that allow water

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molecules to move very quickly across cell membranes at a rate of about 1 million

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H₂O, 1 million water molecules per second.

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And the way that water molecules move across the cell membrane through those

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aquaporin channels is very interesting.

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The inside of those channels, and the way you think of these

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is they're literally tubes stuck through the membranes of cells.

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The insides of those channels are very hydrophobic, allowing those

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water molecules to just jot really quickly and almost as if in your

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mind, you can just imagine as if it was sort of lubricated for the water.

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Although it's not really lubricated, the the water molecules can move through

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in single file a million per second.

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Now, why would you need two ways for water to get across cell membranes?

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One fairly slow through basic diffusion, and again, diffusion folks is the movement

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of things from a gradient of higher concentration to lower concentration,

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which you just think about this as things tend to run downhill from higher

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concentration to lower concentration.

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They try and create equilibrium across space.

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So, you know, if you had a bunch of marbles on one side of a box,

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they're just imagine that these were water molecules because of the

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charges between those hydrogens and oxygens, there's a tendency for those

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marbles to spread out and essentially take on a fairly even confirmation.

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That's basically just diffusion across a space.

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Water molecules will also move from higher concentration to lower

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concentration cross cell membranes, and then you have these portals, these

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tubes or these channels as they're called, these aquaporin channels where

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water molecules can move very quickly.

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Now, the reason why biology seems to have created these aquaporin channels,

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and again, I wasn't consulted the design phase, but the most logical explanation

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is that we have many tissues within our body that often need water very quickly

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or need to release water very quickly.

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Let's think about a couple of these and then let's look at what the

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actual distribution of aquaporin channels is throughout the body.

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What is an area of your body that on occasion will need to move

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water very quickly out of it?

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You can use your imagination here, but I'll just tell you that for instance,

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your tear glands or tear ducts need to release tears very quickly.

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So you need to take water that's stored in your body if there's an emotional

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experience or if you look at a very bright light, for instance or you know, God

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forbid if you get some sort of irritant in your eye, you're gonna start to tear up.

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And those tears are the release of fluid from those tear ducts.

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And so it's gonna be the very rapid release of water from those tear ducts

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through so-called aquaporin channels.

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And in fact, aquaporin channels are heavily expressed.

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There are many of them in the cells of the so-called lacrimal

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glands that release tears.

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In addition, we need to absorb water from the gut.

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And the gut has a lining, endothelial lining and other cell lining and

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mucosal lining and water needs often to move very quickly from our

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stomach into the rest of the body.

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And one way that is accomplished is through aquaporin channels that

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are expressed all along your gut.

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So, the discovery of these aquaporin channels is really highly significant

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in terms of understanding the different ways that water can interact with

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and get into the cells of your body.

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Now, there are aquaporin channels, not just in the lacrimal glands that

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allow for tearing or within the gut, but in many tissues within your body.

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And there even have different distributions within those tissues.

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In fact, as one looks at the expression of the different aquaporin

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channels, cause it turns out there are different forms of them.

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Across all the cells and tissues of the body.

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There's really no single tissue within the body, except perhaps

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the bones of your body and perhaps the ligaments to some extent, that

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don't have these aquaporin channels.

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Some of you out there may have heard of the so-called fascia,

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fascia and sheath muscles.

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They're unique kind of connective tissue that gives some pliability

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and yet some rigidity that allow for a lot of the physical abilities

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of your musculoskeletal system.

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It's incredible tissue.

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We'll do an entire episode about fascia at some point.

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Fascinating, fascinating tissue fascia, even contained aquaporin channels.

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So the role of aquaporin channels in fascia probably relates to

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our specific needs to be able to use specific muscle groups in

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particular ways at particular times.

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In other words, if you're sleeping or lying down or sitting, you're not

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using your musculoskeletal system as much as if you're running or

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performing some repetitive behavior.

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It turns out that the aquaporin channels in certain tissues, like the fascia

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can be used when we transition from low mobility states to high mobility

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states, allowing more perfusion or access of water into particular

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cells of the body when we need it.

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Such as fascinating, fascinating channels.

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These aquaporin channels, and again, only discovered fairly recently,

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so we're still learning new things about our biology all the time.

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Now, in a very important feature of the Aquaporin channel is that the

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movement of water molecules across the cell membrane through those aquaporin

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channels is strongly dependent on the temperature of water and the pH of water.

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This becomes especially important in our description and our deep dive into

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so-called alkaline water or higher pH water a little bit later, but I'll

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just give you a little teaser for now because I'm sure that a number of

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people are, are wondering about this.

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If you go into the store or even a convenient store, you will see pH water.

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Now, every water has a pH, right?

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Lower numbers mean more acidic.

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Higher numbers mean more alkaline, or more basic.

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You'll see pH water.

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That is 7.4.

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You'll see 7.8, you'll see 9.8.

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You'll see a huge range of these things, and there are many, many different claims

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about how the pH of water is important for regulating the pH of the body.

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Here's the real story.

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The pH of your body, that is the pH of the cells at different

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locations in your body, is strongly, strongly homeostatically regulated.

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What do I mean by that?

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It means it doesn't change that much, which means that you have very specific

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biological mechanisms that ensure the pH is maintained, for instance, in the

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skin cells of your skin, in the retinal cells of your eye, in your brain cells.

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Now, It is true that across the body, different cells and tissues

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have fairly widely varying pH.

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You know, it has been said that the pH of bodily tissues is

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generally between 7.2 and 7.4.

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However, if you were to look at the pH of your gut, and keep in mind that

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your gut is not just your stomach, your gut is the entire pathway ranging from

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your throat all the way down to where you excrete things out of your body.

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That entire pathway has different pH levels depending on where you are

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along the gut and intestinal pathway.

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And in fact, having much lower that is more acidic pH at certain locations

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along your gut pathway is what allows those gut microbiota, those little

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microorganisms of which you have trillions that are important for regulating

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everything from neurotransmitter production to hormone production that

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allow them to flourish and do well.

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That said, except under conditions of hemorrhage or changes in blood volume

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that are of a dangerous level that can lead to seizure or even death, the pH

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of the rest of the cells of your body, and also those gut cells doesn't change

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that much on a moment to moment basis.

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So if somebody tells you that you should drink alkaline water or alkalized

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water as it's sometimes called, In order to keep your body more alkaline

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and less acidic, there is essentially no basis for that at a macroscopic

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level or even at a local level.

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Now, what that does not mean is that the pH of the water that

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you drink is not important.

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In fact, if the pH of the water that you drink is too low, that is if the

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water that you consume is too acidic, it will not move as quickly from your

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gut into the other regions of your body, and therefore, the other cells of

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your body that require that water will not be able to access it as readily.

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You've probably experienced this if you've consumed certain water and it feels like

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it's sloshing around in your stomach or it feels like it's just somehow staying

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there, or you feel it, its presence more, not just as volume, but it's almost

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as if you can feel the little waves of water along the inside of your gut.

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Now, sometimes that can relate to temperature, but oftentimes that

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can relate to the pH of that water, and it turns out it is true that

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water that is more alkaline, that is pHs of 7.4 or higher can move more

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readily across the Aquaporin channel.

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And in terms of absorption of water from the endothelial lining and

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the other cell type lining of your gut into the rest of your body.

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It is true that higher pH water provided that pH isn't too high, is going to be

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absorbed more quickly, which partially explains why some people have an

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affinity for this higher pH water.

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Now, this is not to say that you need to consume high pH water in

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order to hydrate your body properly.

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I want to be very clear about that.

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However, if you are interested in what the value of elevated pH

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water is, it largely has to do with this accelerated absorption.

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And as we'll talk about a little bit later, there is also growing evidence

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that it can adjust the function of certain cells that are within your

Time: 3258.99

immune system and thereby reduce certain inflammatory responses.

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So I realize as I'm saying this, some people out there will probably think, oh

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no, this guy's like a pH water proponent.

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He's saying we have to drink alkaline water or buy very fancy water.

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Now, I want to be clear that is not what I'm saying, and I'm also not saying

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that you need to purchase very expensive water in order to derive the maximum

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benefits from the water that you drank.

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It turns out there are a few things that you can do by way of temperature and by

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way of filtering water and a few other tricks that I'll tell you a little bit

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later that will allow you to increase the absorption rate of water in the gut,

Time: 3294.63

which turns out to be a very interesting, but also potentially important thing to

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do for not just reducing inflammation, but also making sure that you're getting

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proper hydration of different cell types in your body, including rapid hydration

Time: 3308.01

of your brain cells, which as we'll also talk about in a few moments, can

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greatly enhance cognitive function.

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Okay, so we've talked about how water can get into cells.

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There are two ways, diffusion and movement through these aquaporin channels.

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We've earmarked the discussion that the temperature and the pH of water,

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that is the confirmation of water.

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And here I really want to embed this in people's minds, that when we talk about

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temperature of water and pH of water, we're really talking about the arrangement

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of those H₂O, those water molecules.

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So keep that in mind.

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We've covered how water can get into cells through those two

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different ways, diffusion and through the aquaporin channels.

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What we haven't talked about is what happens to water once it's in cells,

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and this is very simple to explain.

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Once water is inside of cells, it's going to be incorporated into the

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different proteins and organelles.

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Again, organelles are things like mitochondria, the nucleus of the cells,

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which is contained to the DNA and so forth in different ways, depending

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on which proteins are there and how hydrophilic or hydrophobic those

Time: 3367.08

proteins are, or in some case aren't.

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That's an entire landscape of protein to water specific interactions, none of

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which we need to go into in any specific detail now, but the one thing that we do

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need to realize and keep in mind as we go forward is that many of the biological

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processes in our body that involve the movement to molecules such as water and

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interactions with proteins, are going to involve the bonding or lack of bonding

Time: 3399.375

between water molecules and proteins.

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And anytime we're talking about bonding of one thing to the next at the level

Time: 3405.62

of chemistry or biology for that matter, because they're really the same thing.

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We're talking about whether or not there are electrons present or whether

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or not there are charges that are opposite or the same and on and on.

Time: 3420.675

If you've ever heard of so-called reactive oxygen species, what are

Time: 3425.165

ROS or reactive oxygen species or so-called free radicals or antioxidants?

Time: 3431.835

All of that is really just describing the presence or absence

Time: 3435.735

of charges that are bound or unbound.

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So for instance, if you hear about free radicals, sounds pretty wild, right?

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Free radicals.

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What are free radicals?

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Free radicals can damage cells.

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They don't always damage cells, but they can damage cells because they

Time: 3450.855

are essentially free electrons.

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They are a charge that's sitting out there not bound to anything

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and therefore can interact with the molecular structure of certain

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proteins and change those structures by binding to them or interfering with

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the normal binding processes of those proteins to water or to other things.

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And in that way cause damage to those proteins and potentially damage to cells.

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Now fortunately, our cells have ways to deal with those free radicals,

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and those are called antioxidants.

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Antioxidants are molecules that can arrive in different forms.

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Sometimes we think of antioxidants as vitamins, but they are also present in

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other things as well that essentially bind up those free radicals or repair the

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bonds between cells so that the proteins are no longer undergoing these, let's

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just call them bad confirmations, that damage the functioning of our cells.

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So there are many different theories of aging.

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There are many different theories of disease, but there is not a single

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disease, either of brain or body that doesn't in some way involve the generation

Time: 3519.24

of what are called reactive oxygen species, these free radicals and the

Time: 3523.59

damaging of cells at the level of their individual organelles and so forth.

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Nor is there a single disease of brain or body that has not been shown to benefit

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from having some antioxidant interference get in the way of that oxidative process.

Time: 3538.47

So I realize today is pretty thick with nomenclature.

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For those of you that haven't already realized it, what you're

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learning here is organic chemistry.

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So you can feel pretty good about the fact that if you can understand the water

Time: 3549.39

molecule and understand a little bit about what free electron is, which is basically

Time: 3554.58

a charge that's out there that can potentially do damage and the interactions

Time: 3558.84

of things like reactive oxygen species and the ability of, of stable bonds to

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buffer against or repair certain damage to cells as we're describing it here.

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Well then what you're essentially thinking about and what we're

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talking about is organic chemistry.

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Now, since this is a discussion about chemistry as a service to try and

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understand the biological effects of water, keep in mind that water itself,

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believe it or not, can act as an antioxidant, provided that it's bonding to

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things in the proper way, which requires that it get into cells in the proper

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amounts and rates, which requires that the temperature and pH of that water be

Time: 3597.69

correct and provided that there's enough water there and that that water isn't

Time: 3603.69

bound to other things, it's not containing salutes that are damaging and potentially

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that it's carrying some of the good things such as sodium or that there's potassium

Time: 3612.18

present again, the so-called electrolytes that allow cells to function well.

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Okay, so that's a bit of a trench of information, and I don't want people

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to get overwhelmed or confused.

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What I'm trying to do here is paint a picture of the biology of water,

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understanding that when you ingest water, drinking it down, or when you

Time: 3629.31

breathe water vapors in the steam room or on a humid day, that water is

Time: 3632.64

entering your system, it's accessing your cells through these two mechanisms,

Time: 3636.18

diffusion across cell membranes or movement through aquaporin channels.

Time: 3639.96

And then once inside those cells, it's able to interact with and

Time: 3643.56

change the confirmation of different proteins and accelerate or slow

Time: 3647.55

down different cellular reactions.

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Everything from normal metabolism to blood pressure to damaged cells, depending

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on a number of different features of that water, as well as what the cells

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happen to be doing at any given moment.

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So with that in mind, I'd like to turn our attention to how water, depending on its

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temperature, its pH, how much we drink, or how little we drink when we drink

Time: 3672.06

that water, etc., how that can impact the health, disease and repair of different

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cells, tissues, and organs of our body.

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Let's talk about how much water, or more generally speaking, how much fluid each

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and all of us should drink each day, and how much fluid to drink depending on

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our specific activities and environment.

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Now, this is perhaps the most commonly asked question when

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the topic of water comes up, how much water do I need to drink?

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The other thing that comes up is a question, which is, can't we

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just follow our natural thirst?

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That is, can't we just pay attention to when we're thirsty?

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And then drink fluids?

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And then that leads to the other question, which is, does the color of

Time: 3790.86

our urine provide any indication as to whether or not we are under hydrated,

Time: 3795.095

over hydrated, or hydrating correctly?

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So let me answer each of these things one at a time.

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And in the backdrop, I want to highlight the fact that there are many, many, if

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not dozens, hundreds of studies pointing to the fact that when we are dehydrated,

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our brain doesn't function as well and our body doesn't function as well.

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So what I'm attempting to do in that statement is throw a net around the

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enormous number of studies that have shown that even a slight state of

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dehydration, even 2% dehydration, can lead to a significant and meaningful

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impact, that is a negative impact on our ability to, for instance,

Time: 3835.32

carry out endurance type behaviors.

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So our ability to run on a treadmill and stop at the point

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where we feel we can't continue is going to be negatively impacted.

Time: 3845.16

That is we will be able to perform less work for less period of time

Time: 3850.53

when we are even slightly dehydrated.

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Likewise, our strength is reduced by even slight dehydration.

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Likewise, our cognitive performance, including memory, focus, creative

Time: 3862.135

thinking, flexible thinking of different kinds, are all significantly impaired

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when we are in states of dehydration.

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Now, that raises an additional question that deserves attention, which is how

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do we actually measure dehydration?

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Now you hear different things like if you pinch the skin on the top of your hand and

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it takes more than three seconds to lay down again flat, then you're dehydrated.

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You hear that, you hear, okay, if you are to press on your fingernail and see

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a change in the color of the tissue, just be below your fingernail, which

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indeed does happen, and it does not go back to its original color within one to

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three seconds, then you're dehydrated.

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You hear things like this if your ankles are swollen when you're wearing socks,

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you take off the socks and you can see the imprint of the socks on your lower

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limbs, that means you're dehydrated.

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You hear this kind of stuff, and you should probably be

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wondering, is any of that true?

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To some extent, it is true, although it can vary quite a bit by how

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old you are, whether or not the skin on the top of your hand tends

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to be looser or not depending on whether or not you're leaner or not.

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So in other words, those are not absolutely objective

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measures of dehydration.

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Now, it is true that if normally you can pinch the skin on the top of your hand

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and it returns to its normal flattened position within about one to two or three

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seconds, and it does not do that within five or more seconds, there's a decent

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probability that you're a little bit dehydrated, that you need to ingest some

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fluid, or that if you press down on your nail and you see the depression causes a

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transition from kind of a pink color to a white color, and then you release and it

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doesn't go back to its original pinkish color within a few seconds, well then

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there's a chance that you're dehydrated.

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But again, these are not perfect measures of dehydration.

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You may be surprised to learn, and I was surprised to learn that most of

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the basis for these statements, like even a 2% dehydration state, can lead

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to significant reductions in cognitive or physical performance are based on

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not direct measures of hydration, but rather on measures of reductions in water

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intake, which is a different thing, right?

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It's saying that ordinarily, a person of a given body weight needs X amount

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of fluid per day, and when they get even just 2% less than that amount of fluid

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than their cognitive and or physical performance is impaired, rather than

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focusing on dehydration of tissues.

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Okay?

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Now that might seem like a subtle distinction, but it's

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actually a meaningful distinction when you think about it.

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However, it's a meaningful distinction that we can leverage

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toward understanding how much water or fluid we need to drink each day.

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Now, there we can really point to some solid numbers that, believe it or not,

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are fairly independent of body weight.

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Now, I say independent of body weight.

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I'm referring to the amount of fluid that most healthy adults need at rest.

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What do I mean by at rest?

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I mean when not exercising and when not in extremely hot environments.

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So I'm leaving aside you a desert ultra marathoners or people that are

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doing any kind of movement or living in environments that are very, very hot.

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Here, I'm mainly referring to people that live most of their daily life in indoor

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environments, could be air conditioned or not air conditioned, heated or not heated.

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What we're trying to arrive at here are some numbers that can work across the

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board, because of course there are an infinite number of different conditions

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that each and all of you are existing in.

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So I'm not going to attempt to give you a body weight by activity, by environment,

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by humidity formula calculation.

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In fact, no such calculation exists.

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However, there are formulas that can put you into very stable frameworks.

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That is levels of water intake for periods of rest when you're not exercising

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and for when you are exercising, that will ensure that you are hydrating

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with the one exception being if you are exercising or if you are living in

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very, very hot conditions and you're not heat adapted to those conditions.

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So what are those numbers?

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In other words, what is the answer to the question of how

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much fluid do we need each day?

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And here I'm referring to fluid.

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I'm not distinguishing between water, caffeinated beverages,

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soda, tea, and so on.

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I'll discuss that in a moment.

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We can reasonably say that for every hour that you are awake in the first 10 hours

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of your day, this is important, in the first 10 hours of your day, you should

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consume on average, 8 ounces of fluid.

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Now, for those of you that are using the metric system, not ounces, 8

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ounces of fluid is approximately 236 milliliters of water.

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And for those of you that exist in the metric system and aren't used to

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thinking about ounces and vice versa, just think about a typical can of soda.

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In the United States, it's 12 ounces.

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In Europe, sometimes the cans of soda are a little bit smaller, but

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that's a whole discussion unto itself.

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But 8 ounces of fluid, that is 236, let's just say 240 milliliters because

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we don't need to be too precise here, of fluid on average every hour for

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the first 10 hours of your day, which translates to an average of 80 ounces

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of fluid for the first 10 hours of your day, or 2,360 milliliters of water.

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In other words, approximately 2 liters of water plus a little bit more

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for the first 10 hours of your day.

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Now, I wanna be very clear that this does not mean that you need to

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ingest 8 ounces or 236 milliliters of fluid on the hour, every hour

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for the first 10 hours of your day.

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I'm certainly not saying that.

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And in fact, most people are going to find that they're

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going to ingest water in bolus.

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That is, they're gonna have perhaps 16 ounces of water, 500 milliliters

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of water at one portion of the day, and then maybe a couple hours of later

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that they'll drink some more water or some more coffee or soda or some other

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beverage and another portion of the day.

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I do think, however, it's important for most of us to take a step back and ask

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ourselves whether or not independent of any other activity or environmental

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conditions, whether or not we are in fact ingesting 80 ounces or basically

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2.4 liters of water for that 10 hours of the day that spans from the time

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we wake up until 10 hours later.

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Now, why am I setting this 10 hour framework?

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The reason I'm setting this 10 hour framework is that it turns out that

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your fluid requirements, even just at rest, are vastly different in

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the time from when you wake up until about 10 hours later, as compared

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to the later evening and nighttime.

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And here I'm referring to people that are not doing night shifts.

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But if you are requesting a number of how much fluid to drink independent

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of our needs for fluid for exercise, that's going to be 8 ounces of fluid

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or 240 milliliters of fluid on average for every hour from the time when

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we wake up until 10 hours later.

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That's the simple formulation that should basically ensure that you're

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getting sufficient baseline hydration for the cells and tissues of your body.

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Now, if you are engaging in exercise, whether or not it's endurance exercise or

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whether or not it's resistance training exercise, you are going to need additional

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fluids in order to maximize the effects of that exercise and to avoid dehydration.

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And there too, we have some excellent numbers that we can look to.

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Excellent, because they arrive from research.

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And this is largely peeled from the episode that I did with Dr.

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Andy Galpin, professor of Kinesiology at Cal State Fullerton.

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We did a six episode series all about exercise, everything from strength

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training, hypertrophy, endurance, nutrition, supplementation, recovery,

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everything related to exercise.

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You can find all of that at hubermanlab.com.

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And one of the components of those episodes that was discussed, but that

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some of you may have not heard, is that there is a simple formula for

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how much fluid to ingest on average.

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Keep in mind, this is on average when you are exercising, and I refer to

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this as the so-called Galpin equation.

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The Galpin equation states that you should take your body weight in

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pounds, divide that by 30, and that will give you the number of ounces

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of fluid to ingest every 15 to 20 minutes on average while exercising.

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Okay, your body weight impounds divided by 30 equals the number of ounces of fluid to

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consume on average every 15 to 20 minutes.

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When I say on average, what I mean is it is not the case that you

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need to stop every 15 or 20 minutes and consume that volume of fluid.

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You could sip it from moment to moment.

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You could wait half an hour or an hour and then consume a larger

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bolus of fluid, a larger amount.

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Although it is recommended for performance sake that you sip

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or consume beverages fairly consistently throughout your training.

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One's ability to do that is going to depend on a number of things like

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gastric emptying time, whether or not the particular exercise you're

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doing, whether or not it's running or jumping, is compatible with

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ingesting fluid on a regular basis.

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Or whether or not you need to do it at different intervals

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than every 15, 20 minutes.

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Maybe it's every 5 minutes, maybe it's every half hour.

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You have to adjust for you.

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But if you were to take the hour of exercise or the half hour of exercise

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or the 3 hours of exercise and ask how much fluid to ingest, it's going to be

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that Galpin equation of body weight and pounds to buy it by 30 equals the number

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of ounces for every 15 or 20 minutes.

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And of course, I can already hear screaming from the back.

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What about for those of us who follow the metric system?

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And there there's a simple translation of the Galpin equation, which

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is that you need approximately 2 milliliters of water per kilogram of

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body weight, every 15 to 20 minutes.

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Again, the Galpin equation converted into the metric system is going to be 2

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milliliters of water per kilogram of body weight every 15 to 20 minutes on average.

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I'm sure a number of you are asking whether or not hydration prior

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to exercise is also important.

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It absolutely is, and if you follow the numbers that I talked about before,

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approximately 8 ounces or 240 milliliters of fluid intake per hour in the first 10

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hours of waking, that should establish a good baseline of hydration heading into

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exercise, which then prompts the next question I often get, which is, is the

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amount of water that needs to be consumed according to the Galpin equation during

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exercise on top of, or separate from that?

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That is, does it replace the amount of fluid that one needs at a basic level,

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that 8 ounces or 240 milliliters?

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And there the answer sort of goes both ways.

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I think if you're going to exercise, then obviously follow

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the Galpin equation in some way.

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Again, you don't need to be ultra specific about this.

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These are ballpark figures that will ensure hydration, so we've set them a

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little bit higher perhaps than needed to ensure more hydration rather than less.

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But basically the short answer is if you're exercising for about an hour,

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most people are exercising for an hour or two, probably not more than that.

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Most of my workouts are certainly the resistant training

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workouts last about an hour.

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Well, then you can replace the 8 ounces or the 240 milliliters of water

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that's required at baseline with what you consume according to the Galpin

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equation during that bout of exercise.

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A common question is if you are exercising in a heated environment, indoor, outdoor,

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or you are somebody who tends to sweat a lot, and by the way, we can all get

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better at sweating, by sweating more.

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Sweat is an adaptation.

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So if you sit in the sauna more, you're gonna get better at sweating.

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If you exercise more, especially if you wear more layers, or if you do

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it in hotter temperatures or more humid temperatures, you're gonna

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get better at sweating over time.

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And sweating is an adaptation that helps cool your body.

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If you are sweating a lot or you're in heat, how much fluid should you ingest?

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In general, I think it's safe to say that you may want to increase the values on

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the Galpin equation by about 50 to a 100%.

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So either increase by 50% or double those numbers if you're in a very hot

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environment or sweating an awful lot.

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If you are sitting in the sauna, I highly recommend consuming at least 8 ounces and

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probably more like 16 ounces of fluid.

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So that translates again to about 240 or about 480, let's just round up 500

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milliliters of fluid for every 20 to 30 minutes that you are in a hot sauna.

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And then of course, people ask, well, how hot?

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And it, okay, that starts getting really detailed and we can't distinguish

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between dry saunas and wet saunas.

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And again, too many variables.

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But I would double your fluid intake for that hot environment exercise or

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for that hot environment sauna sit.

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Also if you are feeling dehydrated, okay, what does feeling dehydrated mean?

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That actually has a definition that we can get into a little bit later.

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But what we're really talking about here is if you are feeling as if your throat

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is dry, you are "parched", or you're very thirsty, well then there's absolutely

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no problem with ingesting more fluids.

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So 16 ounces of fluid or 500 milliliters of fluid per hour

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while you're feeling parched.

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My read of the literature is that thirst is a reasonable guide for

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when we tend to be dehydrated.

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However, it is the case that our thirst doesn't really keep up with

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our body's level of dehydration.

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And we know that based on some really nice studies that have explored the

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amount of fluid intake compared to the amount of urination, compared to the

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amount of physical output compared to the environment that one happens to be in.

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And these are sort of older studies in the realm of physiology.

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But here's the basic rule of thumb that's gonna work for most people.

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If you are feeling parched, consume fluids, ideally you consume fluids that

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don't contain caffeine or other diuretics.

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Diuretics being substances that cause the release, the urination of fluid from

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the body and or if you are consuming caffeine either prior to or after bouts

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of exercise or even just at work or you work in a air conditioned or otherwise

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dry, cool or hot environment, that you try and include some sodium and

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ideally sodium, potassium, magnesium, the electrolytes in that beverage.

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So it could be a little pinch of sea salt with some lemon to

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adjust the taste a little bit.

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It could be an electrolyte drink, an LMNT or some other sort, they're

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a lot of different types out there.

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For most people drinking pure water, and I realize that many people do

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just like the taste of pure water.

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Chances are you're going to have enough electrolytes unless you're sweating

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quite a bit or you're exercising quite a lot, and under conditions where you

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are consuming very few carbohydrates, you're going to excrete more fluid.

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If you are ingesting caffeine, whether or not it's from tea or coffee, I

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highly recommend increasing your non caffeine fluid intake about two to

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one for every volume of caffeine.

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So in other words, if you have a 6 ounces or 8 ounces of coffee, you're gonna want

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12 to 16 ounces of fluid, ideally fluid with electrolytes, or a little pinch of

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salt in order to offset that dehydration.

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So hopefully those will provide good rules of thumb for what people want to do

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when they're just moving about their day.

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Again, underscored by the fact that even slight levels of dehydration can

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really impair our cognitive and physical performance largely by creating fatigue.

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But more often than not by creating brain fog.

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You know, I get so many questions about brain fog.

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Why do I have brain fog?

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Why do I have brain fog?

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There is a vast literature showing that quality hydration, meaning

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hydration that matches the demands of humidity and output as described

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in the equations that we went over a little bit before, really can enhance

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clarity of focus and overall energy.

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And we'll talk about why that is, but I'll just allude to it a little bit here.

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The reason why ingesting sufficient fluids can enhance our ability to

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focus, and in fact can reduce brain fog and can increase physical vigor

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and output is not mysterious to us.

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We know that there are two mechanisms by which fluid intake triggers

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elevated levels of alertness, and it all has to do with the so-called

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sympathetic arm of the autonomic nervous system, which is a real mouthful.

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But basically the sympathetic arm of the autonomic nervous system, as

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many of you've heard me talk about before, is the aspect of your nervous

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system that makes you more alert.

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Has nothing to do with emotional sympathy, has to do with a bunch of neurons in

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the middle of your spinal cord called the sympathetic chain ganglia, and

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some other related neural networks in your body, as well as regions of

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your brain, like the locus coeruleus, that release things like epinephrine

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and norepinephrine and make you more alert and in a kind of magnificent

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arrangement, or I think magnificent arrangement, when we have fluid in our

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gut and when our cells are well hydrated, and believe it or not, when our bladder

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contains fluid within it, there is an elevation in activity of the sympathetic

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nervous system by way of two pathways.

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One is mechanical.

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In fact, we have so-called stretch receptors in our bladder and in our

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gut, these stretch receptors have fancy names like TRP trip channels

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as they're called, or piezo, which are these stretch sensing channels.

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This is the beautiful work of many laboratories, but in particular

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David Julius and Ardem Patapoutian.

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David Julius is at UC San Francisco, Ardem is at the Scripps Institute.

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They've discovered a bunch of channels in cells that sends things

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from cold to different mechanical pressure, including expansion of

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tissues so-called Mechanosensation.

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And basically what it all boils down to is that when our bladder has some

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fluid in it, when our stomach has some fluid in it, and when our cells

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are sufficiently hydrated, they send information about the mechanical

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presence of that distension even.

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And then here, I'm not talking about being like overly full or, you

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know, full of chock-a-block, full of fluid or your bladder feeling,

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you know, really, really full.

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We'll talk about that in a moment.

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But when we are sufficiently hydrated, there's a mechanical signature of

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that, which is the expansion of our tissues because it has more fluid in it.

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And there are chemical signals as well, which is the movement of water

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across those aquaporin channels is actually understood at a biological

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level by ourselves and sends information to the areas of the brain that are

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associated with so-called sympathetic arousal and makes us more alert.

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This is actually what wakes us up in the middle of the night.

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If we have consumed too much fluid prior to sleep and we

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need to urinate, we wake up.

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This is a mechanism that is not adequately developed in babies and young children.

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This is why babies, young children often will wet their bed.

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And believe it or not, in both humans and in dogs, our ability to

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control urination voluntarily is something that we actually learn.

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Babies just pee in their diaper.

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Dogs just pee on the floor until their house broken or until a child

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learns to hold onto their urine, until they go to the bathroom, in the

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bathroom, or particularly appropriate location outdoors or otherwise.

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The point is that hydration of the body is signaled to the brain when we have

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enough fluid in the tissues of our body, when we've consumed enough fluid, even

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if it hasn't already arrived to the cells and tissues of our body, that is signaled

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to the brain in the form of alertness.

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And that alertness is what translates to the enhanced cognitive abilities

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that we have when we are well hydrated.

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It's also what translates to our enhanced physical abilities when we

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are challenged with physical tasks.

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So when you look out on the landscape of all these studies that have

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shown impairments in physical or cognitive performance under conditions

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of even slight dehydration, that all makes sense because our cells

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need fluid and we need water.

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But it also prompts the question of, well, does being well hydrated

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actually make our brain and body function better in the context of

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physical and cognitive performance?

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And indeed, the answer is yes.

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Now, earlier we were talking about these equations that you can apply.

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And here again, I really want to emphasize that these equations were not meant to

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be followed down to the decimal point.

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They were really meant and are meant as crude, but sufficient guides for

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you to make sure that you're getting enough hydration depending on your

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levels of activity and at rest.

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If you recall when we talked about those equations, I said, you need

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about 8 ounces or 240 milliliters of fluid per hour for the first

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10 hours of your day after waking.

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Now, why did I say for the first 10 hours?

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Well, it turns out that the filtration of fluids from your body, which is

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accomplished of course, by your kidneys and by way of your bladder, and the

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excretion of fluid out urethra, so-called urination, is strongly, strongly

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circadian dependent, meaning the cells of your kidney and the cells even of

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your gut, in fact, all the cells of your body, but especially the cells

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of your kidney, which filter the fluid that comes into your body, and that

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makes certain hormones like vasopressin, which is antidiuretic hormone.

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All of that functioning of the kidney is under strong regulation by so-called

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circadian clock genes, circadian clock genes are genes that are expressed

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in every cell, but that in certain cells of the body very strongly

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impact whether or not that organ, in this case, the kidney is going to be

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activated, meaning functioning at a very high level or at a reduced level.

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And we can make all of this very simple by simply stating what's contained in

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this beautiful review that I'll provide a link to if you want to learn more

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called circadian rhythms in the kidney.

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And basically what is known is that for the first 10 hours after waking,

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your kidney is filtering fluid within your body at a very rapid rate.

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There are a number of different cell types that do that, but they are

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basically taking that fluid, pulling out any contaminants using hormones such

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as antidiuretic hormone, vasopressin to adjust whether or not you're gonna

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hold onto fluid or release more fluid from your body in the form of urine.

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Depending on the salt concentration, depending on how much fluid

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you need, your work output, the conditions you're in, all of that.

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However, at about 10 hours after waking your kidney really starts to reduce

Time: 5168.594

its overall level of functioning.

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Now that doesn't mean that your kidney cannot filter fluid 11 or 12 or 16

Time: 5174.684

hours after waking, but it becomes far less efficient at doing so, and thank

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goodness it does because you do not want your kidney filtering fluid at

Time: 5182.804

the same rate at midnight, assuming you wake up at say, 7 or 8 or 9:00 AM that

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it was filtering fluid at 10:00 AM.

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In fact, we can say that if you want to reduce your nighttime waking in

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order to urinate, which is a common, common question and concern that many

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people have, how can I avoid waking up in the middle of the night to urinate?

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And there I say it's perfectly normal to wake up once, maybe twice each night

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to urinate, but if you want to reduce the number of times that you wake up

Time: 5214.525

in order to urinate across the night, maybe even make that number zero times.

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You will greatly benefit by doing 3 things.

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First of all, make sure that you're hydrating sufficiently during the daytime

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per the equations that we talked about earlier, that will ensure that you are

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not excessively thirsty in the evening and therefore consuming a lot more fluid.

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Second, and related to that first point is that you do want to reduce your

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fluid intake at night, provided you hydrated sufficiently throughout the day.

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And believe it or not, the rate at which fluid moves from your gut and

Time: 5252.625

into the cells and tissues of your body and then from your bladder into urine

Time: 5257.184

is determined not just by the volume of fluid you ingest, but also the rate

Time: 5261.804

at which you ingest that fluid and you might be thinking, that's crazy.

Time: 5265.405

That makes no sense at all, right?

Time: 5266.934

If I drink a ton of fluid slowly, doesn't it still mean

Time: 5269.669

that I'm going to urinate a ton?

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Yes and no.

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It also stands to reason that you might ask, if I ingest very little

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fluid, but I do it very fast, is it gonna be the case that I'm

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gonna urinate it out very quickly?

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Well, yes and no.

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The point is that the fluid filtration systems of your body that range from

Time: 5288.209

the gut to the bladder and include the kidney, of course, depend not just on the

Time: 5292.915

volume, but on the rate of fluid that you ingest because of those Mechanosensors

Time: 5298.45

that we talked about earlier.

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If you gulp down a bunch of fluids, you are going to excrete those fluids

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more quickly than if you sip them slowly, excuse me, sip them slowly.

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So here's what I recommend throughout the day.

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When you're trying to get your adequate yield of water or other beverages,

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feel free to gulp that fluid or sip it.

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I'm a gulper, not a sipper, but many of you are gonna be sippers,

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not gulpers, consume fluid at the rate that feels right to you, but

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feel comfortable gulping that fluid.

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However, in the evening, if you are somebody who has challenges with

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waking up excessively in the middle of the night, reduce your fluid intake

Time: 5336.4

provided you hydrate properly throughout the day, and I suggest consuming no

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more than 5, maybe 8 ounces of fluid between the time of 10 hours after

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waking and when you go to sleep.

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Again, if you're very thirsty or you under hydrate or it's very hot, feel

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free to ingest more fluid please.

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But most people will find that if they reduce their fluid intake to about 5

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ounces or less of fluid in that later part of the day, after 10 hours of having

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woken up and before sleep, and they sip those beverages as opposed to gulping

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them, that they will have fewer bouts of waking up in the middle of the night

Time: 5372.309

to go to the restroom and ideally zero.

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Let's talk about tap water, and here I have to take a deep breath, not a

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deep gulp, but a deep breath because in researching tap water and what's contained

Time: 5385.03

in tap water in different regions, not just in the US but around the world, I

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confess the picture is a pretty scary one.

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I want to be clear, I'm not somebody who naturally orients towards

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fear or conspiracy theories.

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However, in researching tap water for this episode by way of looking at the

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peer reviewed research, meta-analysis reviews, specific research articles where

Time: 5408.88

specific hypotheses were tested, and in talking with experts in toxicology and so

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on, it's a pretty grim picture frankly.

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When one looks at what's contained in most tap water and whether or not the

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compounds that are contained in tap water are present in sufficient concentrations

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to negatively impact our health.

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And the bad news is that much, if not all, tap water, believe it or not much if

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not all, tap water contains things that are bad for the biology of our cells.

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There is a silver lining, however, and the silver lining is that very simple

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steps that are very inexpensive can be used to adjust that tap water to

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make it not just safe to drink, but that makes it perfectly fine to drink.

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So that's the good news, and we'll get to that in a moment.

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If you are somebody who is interested in whether or not tap water contains

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things like endocrine disruptors, hormone disruptors that can negatively impact

Time: 5462.82

reproductive health in males or females, or both, there is a wonderful review,

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wonderful, because it's so thorough.

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Although the news isn't great, it's very thorough, which is great, which is

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entitled Endocrine Disruptors in Water and Their Effects on the Reproductive System.

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This is a review from 2020 that analyzes water from a bunch of different sources

Time: 5482.08

within the world and essentially focuses on a few key components.

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First of all, it focuses on the concentration of minerals.

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That is magnesium and calcium within water.

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Many people don't realize this, but so-called hard

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water sounds terrible, right?

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But hard water is water that contains magnesium and calcium,

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which turns out to be a good thing.

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Some water contains more magnesium and calcium.

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Other water contains less.

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They looked at the presence of magnesium and calcium because that

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is going to impact the pH of water.

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In general, the higher concentrations of magnesium and calcium and water, the

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higher the pH that is, the more alkaline that water is, and the lower levels of

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magnesium and calcium, the more acidic or lower pH that water tends to be.

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The other thing that this review addresses is the concentration of so-called

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DBPs: dog bulldog, porcupines, DBPs.

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Which are disinfection byproducts contained in water.

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So obviously local governments, the government wants your

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drinking water to be clean.

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They don't want contaminants in, they don't want sewage in that water.

Time: 5548.139

They don't want chemical contaminants that are going to make people

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immediately sick, so they treat water.

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Water treatment plants, treat water with disinfection products, and those

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disinfection products create things called disinfection byproducts.

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And the presence of those DBPs or disinfectant byproducts can

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strongly impact the pH of water by way of changing the concentrations

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of magnesium and calcium.

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Put differently, I do believe that governments are trying to provide

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people with clean water, but in doing so, oftentimes we'll introduce things

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to that water that are not good for us.

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Now, it's very clear that DBPs can cause endocrine disruption in ways that

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are not good for reproductive health.

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I did a very long, in fact, 4 and a half hour episode on fertility and vitality.

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That was male and female fertility, by the way.

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And vitality that again, you can find at hubermanlab.com that talks about

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all the biological processes involved in the generation of healthy eggs and

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sperm and, and creating healthy embryos, implantation embryos, and so forth.

Time: 5609.009

It's very clear that DBPs have been shown to disrupt ovarian function,

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spermatogenesis and fertility outcomes.

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Even at concentrations of DBPs that are present in drinking

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water that comes from the tap.

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Now, does that mean that you shouldn't drink tap water?

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Well, the answer to that is it depends.

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What does it depend on?

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Well, it depends on several things.

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First of all, I highly recommend to everybody go online and put

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in your zip code and ask for a water analysis of water that comes

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out of the tap in that zip code.

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This is something that is readily available online, at least to my

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knowledge, and unfortunately, there's no specific one site that I can send everyone

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to, to get an in-depth analysis of the drinking water that comes out of your tap.

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However, I highly recommend that you go online and put in your zip code

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or municipal area code and figure out whether or not your water contains X

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amount of DBPs or Y amount of DBPs.

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Now, of course, you're gonna get a bunch of values back, and unless you're

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a toxicologist, You are probably not gonna know what those values mean.

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But what you're really looking for is whether or not there are

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high, low, or moderate levels of fluoride in that drinking water.

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Why do I say that?

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Well, there are studies that show that the concentration of fluoride in drinking

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water is of particular concern for the thyroid hormone system of the body.

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Now, thyroid hormone has a lot of different roles in brain and

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body, and thyroid hormone is very important for everything from

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metabolism to levels of energy.

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When thyroid levels are disrupted or thyroid receptors are disrupted,

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it can lead to depression.

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When thyroid hormones are optimized, it can lead to optimal

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mood if there is such a thing.

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But in other words, it helps keep your mood elevated.

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It relates to everything from sleep to reproduction, thyroid hormones involved

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in many, many things including bone health and tissue health generally.

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So essentially, every biological process in your body is impacted by

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thyroid hormone, and there's a study that I'd like to highlight, which was

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published in 2018, and the title of the study is Impact of Drinking Water

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Fluoride on Human Thyroid Hormones.

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This was a case control study so this is not an extensive

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analysis of many individuals.

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However, what it shows is that fluoride negatively impacts thyroid stimulating

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hormone and so-called T3 levels.

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So you have thyroid hormone, T3, and T4 even in the standard concentrations that

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are present of, and here's an important number, 0.5 milligrams per liter.

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Okay?

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So if you can get ahold of the fluoride concentrations in your tap water and find

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out whether or not the concentrations are at below or exceed 0.5 milligrams

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per liter, what you'll find is that even just 0.5 milligrams per liter of

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water can disrupt thyroid function.

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And this is going to be a particular concern for people to have familial,

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so genetically related thyroid issues, or that are concerned with

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keeping your thyroid hormone levels healthy, which I think is everybody.

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So I am telling you that you should try and get ahold of some data about

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the water that comes out of your tap if you intend on drinking tap water.

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And probably even if you don't just know what's in your drinking

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water, your local government should provide that information and or it

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should be readily available online.

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And in particular, I think it's worthwhile to address how much fluoride

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is present in your drinking water.

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Again, I don't want to create a lot of scare.

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I'm not trying to trigger fear here.

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I do think, however, by way of reading this review by way of reading the paper

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that I just referred to a moment ago, again, links to these are going to be

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provided in the show note captions, that there is extensive evidence that

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elevated levels of fluoride in drinking water are simply not good for us.

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Now, that could open a whole discussion of why fluoride is in our drinking

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water in the first place at all.

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But leaving that aside, it seems to me that most everybody should know how much

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fluoride is in their drinking water.

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And ideally, everybody, yes, everybody is filtering their drinking water.

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Now, that raises the question of how best to filter drinking water.

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And that brings an answer of it depends on a couple of things.

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First of all, how healthy or unhealthy do you know yourself to be?

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Okay?

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So if you're somebody who has no health issues, you have plenty of vigor, you're

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sleeping well at night, you have no autoimmune disease, you're not aware

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of any health concern, minor or major, well then perhaps you're somebody that

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doesn't want to filter your water.

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I would argue that why wouldn't you employ some very low or even zero

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cost approach to filtering your water?

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There are going to be other individuals who are suffering particular ailments of

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brain or body, or both, that absolutely should be filtering their drinking water,

Time: 5892.525

if they're getting their drinking the water from their tap because it is pretty

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well established now that tap water contains a lot of these disinfectant

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byproducts, as well as in most cases, exceeding the threshold of fluoride

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that we know to be healthy for us.

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How should you filter your tap water?

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Well, you have everything ranging from the so-called Brita type filters.

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So these are gonna be carbon type filters or other filters that you essentially

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put over a container or a compartment where you can pour the water over it

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and goes into the compartment below.

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Will those work?

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Are they sufficient to filter out the disinfectant byproducts?

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The general answer is yes, provided you change the filters often enough.

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However, it is not thought, unfortunately, not thought that

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they filter out sufficient fluoride.

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So what I highly recommend is depending on your budget, that you go online

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and you search for at-home water filters that can filter out fluoride.

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There are a number of straightforward and inexpensive tools to do that.

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And here I don't have any relationship to any of the water filters or

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things that I'm gonna mention.

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Now, I wanna be very clear about that there's no brand code or affiliation here.

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I'm simply trying to direct you to resources that will allow you to filter

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your tap water for it to be more safe for you to consume in a way that meets your

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budget with the understanding that people have very different disposable incomes.

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So the range of costs here is going to be pretty tremendous.

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I just wanna get that outta the way first.

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, you know, there are water filters that you can use repeatedly.

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So these are what I'll refer to as pitch filters that are

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less than a hundred dollars.

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Now keep in mind that that's a one-time purchase except for the replacement

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of the filters, which fortunately doesn't have to be done too often.

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So there are different filters.

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I'll provide a link to one that I found that is at least by my

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read of the lowest possible cost.

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So this is the so-called clearly filtered water pitcher with affinity filtration.

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So this is a filter that can adequately remove fluoride, lead,

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BPAs, glyphosates, hormones, and some of the other harmful things

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that are contained in most tap water.

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Again, I do realize that for some people, even an 80 US dollar

Time: 6015.18

cost is going to be prohibitive.

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But do realize that what you're doing here is you're purchasing a unit that

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can be used repeatedly, over and over.

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The reason why it's lower cost than some of the different filtration

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approaches that I'll talk about in a moment are that you can't really

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put all the drinking water that you would use, say for an entire week or

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for an entire month in one pitcher.

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You're gonna have to repeatedly pour water into the pitcher in order to filter it.

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Now, as I mentioned before, the range on water filter costs for filters that

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can adequately remove fluoride and all the other things that you want

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out of your top water is immense.

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In fact, you can find you know, whole house water filters that

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are, you know, $2,000 or more.

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Again, these are gonna be filters that are gonna be in your garage or in a, a

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laundry room that are going to basically pull from the, the piping system of

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your house and deliver purified water.

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I technically, it's not purified, but that's removing these contaminants and

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fluoride from all the sinks in your house.

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So you could effectively drink from any or all sinks in your house.

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That's what explains the higher cost.

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I think most people are probably not going to have the disposable income

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or have the opportunity to include one of these whole house filters, although

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if you do have the means and it's important to you, you could do that.

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And then there are going to be what I would call intermediate systems.

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So systems that cost somewhere between 200 and $500.

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Probably one of the more common ones or popular ones is a

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so-called Berkey filter system.

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These are filter systems that, again, remove the things that you want

Time: 6101.96

removed from your tap water, and they can do it at higher volumes.

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And they're typically countertop units.

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They don't require any plugin typically, or they only require brief plugin

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and electricity, and they're going to filter out many, many liters or tens of

Time: 6116.054

liters of water so that you can always have access to that clean filtered

Time: 6119.415

water time or day or night without having to pour over into the pitcher.

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So I mentioned these different options because again, I realize that people have

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different levels of disposable income.

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As far as I know, there's no tablet or simple mechanism that can be purchased

Time: 6135.105

as a transportable, you know pill that you can just simply throw in

Time: 6139.519

water and remove the contaminants.

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If anyone is aware of one that can adequately remove fluoride and

Time: 6144.644

other contaminants, please put in the comment section on YouTube.

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That'd be the best place.

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So that I and everyone else can see it, but hopefully the mention of the

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different filtration systems that I mentioned we'll give you some choices

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that I would hope would fall within the range that one could potentially afford.

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An important note about filtration.

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Just as in our body, there are mechanisms to signal mechanical changes and

Time: 6168.3

chemical changes that occur in our gut, in our brain, etc., elsewhere

Time: 6171.78

and in general, both mechanical and chemical changes are signaled across

Time: 6175.86

the body to invoke different changes, whether or not those are, you know,

Time: 6179.7

a response of the immune system or to make us more alert or more asleep, etc.

Time: 6183.6

So too filtration capitalizes on mechanical and chemical filtration.

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What I mean by that is when you run a fluid water or any other

Time: 6192.87

fluid through a filter, those filters are doing two things.

Time: 6196.71

They are physically constraining which molecules can go through by creating

Time: 6202.08

portals, pores that allow certain size molecules to go through and not others.

Time: 6207.69

And almost always, they contain certain chemicals themselves, right?

Time: 6212.55

Those filters have been treated with certain chemicals that

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neutralize certain other chemicals.

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Okay?

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So you may be wondering how when you filter water, you know,

Time: 6220.95

magnesium and calcium could get through, but fluoride doesn't.

Time: 6223.5

And that's because these filters have been very cleverly designed

Time: 6226.71

in order to neutralize fluoride or to prevent large molecules, such as

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sediment and dirt, which is kind of easy to imagine being filtered, but

Time: 6235.655

also to allow certain small molecule, like calcium, which is small-ish, or

Time: 6240.945

magnesium, which is small-ish to still pass through into our drinking water.

Time: 6244.425

And this is wonderful because what it means is that by filtering our

Time: 6246.735

water, using any of the methods that we talked about before, you're still

Time: 6249.705

going to get whatever magnesium and calcium was present in that water while

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still adequately removing the fluoride and other disinfectant byproducts.

Time: 6258.434

Now, what if you can't afford any of those options?

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Okay, well here you have an interesting zero cost option.

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It's not as good as the other ones of filtering that water, but it is an

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option, and I do think it's important to give options to people who don't have

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any disposable income for the purpose of filtering their water, which is to

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draw a gallon or 5 gallons or maybe even more, tap water out of the tap and put it

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into some, some container, some vessel.

Time: 6285.525

So it could be one gallon, 5 gallon, 10 gallon container.

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And then to let that tap water sit for some period of time to allow some of

Time: 6292.995

the sediment to drop to the bottom.

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Now you might say, well, there's no sediment, there's nothing contained

Time: 6297.514

in that tap water and it isn't fluoride diluted in the water.

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And indeed the answer to that is yes.

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However, there is some evidence that letting tap water sit out at room

Time: 6306.825

temperature and outside the pipes that deliver that water can help remove some,

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not all of the contaminants in that water.

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If, however you are filtering the water using any of the methods

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that I talked about a few moments ago, you do not need to do this.

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Okay?

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I realize there's a whole world out there of people who insist on putting their

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water in the sun or only keeping it in certain containers and putting it out

Time: 6327.48

for a few days before they get ingested.

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That to me, seems a bit extreme.

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If you wanna do that, be my guest, but I don't think most people need to do that.

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However, I do believe that for people who have zero disposable income to devote to

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paying for any kind of filtration system for their tap water, they're taking that

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tap water and putting into some container at room temperature and keeping it room

Time: 6346.32

temperature for a half day or a day or more, and then pouring off the top

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two thirds of that water into another container and consuming the water from

Time: 6356.94

that second container is going to remove some, not all of the contaminants that

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one would need to be concerned about.

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And here I should mention something that I neglected to mention a few moments ago.

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If you were going to do this zero cost option and, and let the

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water sit out for a bit, you would want that water to sit uncapped.

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Sorry, I should have mentioned that before.

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Uncapped, of course, trying to keep things from falling into that water.

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In fact, you could even put a a little bit of cloth above it, so you don't

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want things falling into that water, but you want certain things to be able

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to evaporate off, and you also want some of the sediment to drop down.

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And the reason why this process of letting water sit out would work at all is because

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many of the contaminants contained within water are not present because of the

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source of that water or even the treatment of that water, but rather because of the

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pipes that that water arrives to your glass or your, the pot that you have from.

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Okay?

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And here again, there is an infinite number of variables.

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So some people are living in buildings for which the pipes are

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very, very old, but very, very clean.

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Believe it or not, some people are living in newer buildings and structures.

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They have new pipes, but for which the seals between those pipes contain things

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that are not good for you to consume.

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So by letting water sit out for a while, you are able to remove some of the

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contaminants present within the pipes of your home and the building and even the

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pipes that lead to your home or apartment.

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Now, some people get really obsessed with this old tap water thing and really

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wanna find out all the details about the pipes and what sorts of, you know, hard

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metals and how much magnesium and how much calcium are present in their water.

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There are ways that you can test your drinking water for those sorts of things.

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Most people, I realize, including myself, are simply not going to do that.

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If you want to know what I do, I tend to drink water that is filtered through

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one of these lower cost filters.

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Or if I'm going to be consuming a lot of fluid, I will drink certain kinds

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of fluid that later I'll tell you, I've been doing an experiment for sake of this

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episode looking at so-called molecular hydrogen water, which sounds very fancy

Time: 6474.99

and esoteric and almost a little wacky.

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But it turns out has largely to do with the amount of magnesium and

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calcium and the pH of that water.

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So if you are somebody who has a very low budget or simply just wants to

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spend a very small amount of money and try and still drink tap water, there

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is absolutely a way to do that safely.

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But it does require a few of these steps.

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So, on the topic of magnesium and calcium, this relates, as I mentioned

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earlier, to the "hardness" of water.

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So what of the hardness of water, you know, is it better to have more magnesium

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and calcium in your water or less?

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Some people don't like the taste of hard water.

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They prefer the taste of water that has less magnesium in calcium.

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However, there I would encourage you to take a step back and

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consider some of the literature.

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In fact I'll mention a paper in particular now, published in 2019, which describes

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the quote, regulations for calcium, magnesium, or hardness in drinking water

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in the European Union member states.

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Turns out in Europe, they do very detailed water analysis and that's

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present in a number of really high quality scientific publications.

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This was a paper published in regulatory toxicology and pharmacology, and they

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cite a number of different references in the introduction that, for instance,

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in here I'm quoting statistically significant inverse association between

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magnesium and cardiovascular mortality.

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Now, again, that's a, an association, this is not causal, but higher magnesium

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in water, lower cardiovascular mortality.

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They go on to say the highest exposure category, which are people consuming

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drinking water with magnesium contents of 8.3 to 19.4 milligrams per liter.

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Again, when you get your water analysis, you can compare against some of these

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values was significantly associated with decreased likelihood of cardiovascular

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mortality by 25% compared with people consuming magnesium content

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of 2.5 to 8.2 milligrams per liter.

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Okay, so what this basically shows, and, and by the way, the reference

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to that I'll also provide a link to, in the show note caption.

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What this basically states is that higher magnesium containing water,

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and it turns out higher magnesium and calcium containing water, so-called

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harder water may not taste as good to you, but turns out to be better for you.

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Now, whether or not it can prevent you from getting cardiovascular

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disease, I don't know.

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In fact, I would probably just state no, it probably won't prevent

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you from cardiovascular disease.

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You still need to do all the other things that are important for

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avoiding cardiovascular disease and cerebral vascular disease.

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For that and what to do in order to avoid cardiovascular disease.

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I strongly encourage you to listen to the episode with Dr.

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Peter Attia, that's coming out in a few weeks that gets deep into that

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topic and the actionable items for avoiding cardiovascular disease.

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But basically, as this study quotes, there is a growing consensus among

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epidemiologists and epidemiological evidence along with clinical and

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nutritional evidence that's strong enough to suggest that new guidance

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should be issued in terms of how these different sources of tap water should

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enhance, not deplete the amount of magnesium and calcium in that water.

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Now, this ought to raise a very important question in all of your

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minds, which is why is it that magnesium and calcium concentrations

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are relevant to cardiovascular disease?

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Is it something about what magnesium does in cells or what calcium does in cells?

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Are we all magnesium and calcium deficient?

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Well, it turns out that's not the case.

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The major effect by which magnesium and calcium in water are likely to impact

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things like blood pressure, cardiovascular disease, and other aspects of cellular

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function turn out to be somewhat cryptic.

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But we can make that cryptic aspect very clear by saying that when we

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have more magnesium in particular, but also calcium present in our water,

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so-called hard water, you increase the amount of hydrogen in that water.

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It becomes what we call hydrogen rich and the pH of that water is increased.

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Now again, this does not mean that we are trying to change the pH of the cells of

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our body in any kind of meaningful way.

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In fact, we don't want to do that.

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We want the pH of the cells of our body to stay in particular ranges as

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I mentioned earlier, but having more magnesium and more calcium in our water

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that is increasing the hardness of our water changes the pH of that water.

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And it turns out that the elevated pH of water, that is pH of water that tends

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to be somewhere between high sevens.

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So we could say 7.9 up to even 9 or 9.2 is going to be more readily absorbed and

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is going to more favorably impact the function of our cells than lower pH water.

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Again, I wanna restate this because I'm a little bit concerned that

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maybe a clip of this is gonna be taken and, and send elsewhere.

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And someone will get the impression that I'm saying that we actually want

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to drink high pH water, that we all need to buy expensive high pH water.

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Turns out that's not the case.

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If you are consuming tap water from a location where levels of a magnesium are

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sufficiently high in that tap water again, where the level of magnesium is 8.3 to

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19.4 milligrams per liter of water, that is, if the water coming out of your tap

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is hard enough, well then chances are you don't need to enhance the pH of that water

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or change its magnesium concentration.

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If, however, the water that you're drinking from the tap filtered or

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not, I would hope filtered contains less than 8.3 milligrams per liter of

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magnesium, well then chances are the pH of that water is going to be low

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enough that it's not going to be lending itself to some of the favorable health

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components that higher pH water can.

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Notice, I did not say that lower pH aka more acidic water is bad for you.

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I didn't say that.

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I said that higher pH water can be good for you.

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So let's talk about how and why higher pH water can be good for you.

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And some of the best, and in fact, very inexpensive sources of higher

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pH magnesium enhanced or simply tap water that contains sufficient

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magnesium can be used and accessed.

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Many of you are probably wondering whether or not you can simply boil your tap water

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and thereby decontaminate the tap water.

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There I want to caution you, it turns out that some of the

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contaminants present in water are actually made worse by heating water.

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And again, I don't want to open up you know, a whole catalog of different fears.

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I, like all of you, I presume, use water to cook pasta, rice, because I'm

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an omnivore, I do consume those things.

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I confess if I make Yerba Matte or any kind of tea or coffee, I tend to use

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a higher quality water source than tap water, even if that tap water is filtered,

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because I like the taste far more if I use a really good source of water, and again,

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because I'm not consuming those beverages in enormous volumes, that becomes a,

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a relatively inexpensive endeavor.

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But I would caution people against using boiling or heating of water

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as the only method to decontaminate their tap water and instead to

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also rely on some of the filtration systems that I talked about before.

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And as long as we're talking about the temperature of water, there is

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sort of an ongoing debate online.

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It's not a huge debate, but a number of people engaged in this debate as

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to whether or not drinking really cold water or room temperature water

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is better for you or worse for you.

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This is a tough one to resolve.

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It turns out that if water is very, very cold, that is if you drink it and you can

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feel that cold water making its way down to your gut and you can actually feel it

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as cold within your gut, that's sort of a, a you know, back of the envelope, , or I

Time: 6927.31

should say direct within the gut measure of cold versus body temperature water,

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that it is going to be slower to absorb.

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That is you're gonna feel it sloshing around in your stomach for a bit

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longer than if you were to consume water that is slightly warmer.

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Now, that is not to say that you should ingest warm water

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or room temperature water.

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However, many people find that when they drink very cold water or ice water,

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that indeed it can alter the kind of sensation of the lining of their stomach

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in ways that at least to them feel like it's altering their digestion.

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And that makes sense.

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The cells that line the gut are very temperature sensitive.

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You want this so for a number of reasons, including not consuming

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food that is excessively hot or cold or damaging your gut.

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But in general, most people know the temperature of fluid that

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they want to ingest and ingest that temperature of fluid.

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So most people, for instance, on a cold day, want a warmer or hot fluid.

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Does that mean that you're not going to absorb that warmer hot fluid?

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No, of course it doesn't.

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You're going to absorb that fluid one way or the other.

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So drink fluids at the temperatures that are to your liking in that moment.

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In other words, what you desire in that moment and don't worry so much

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about trying to avoid cold beverages or trying to make sure that you're

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always consuming room temperature water as opposed to cold water.

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So now with your understanding of hard water, soft water, magnesium, the

Time: 7006.844

relationship between magnesium, calcium, and the pH of water, and remember our

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earlier conversation where we talked about how higher pH water is actually

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going to move out of the gut and into the body a bit more readily, and across

Time: 7019.895

those aquaporin channels more readily than lower pH, more acidic water.

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Well, that raises the question of whether or not all these different forms

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of water that are out there, reverse osmosis water, distilled water, double

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distilled water deuterium-depleted water, alkaline water, as it's often

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called, whether or not any or all of that has meaningful health outcomes.

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Here we can address some of those items pretty quickly.

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For instance, distilled water and double distilled water is essentially

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distilled of that is it has magnesium and calcium removed from it.

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So my recommendation would be to not drink distilled water.

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There may be specific circumstances where somebody has very high levels of blood

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magnesium or calcium or calcium stores within the body that would necessitate

Time: 7067.94

them drinking only distilled water.

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But that seems like a very isolated kind of niche case.

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So in general, consuming distilled water is just simply not necessary.

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Now in terms of reverse osmosis water, what is reverse osmosis water?

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Reverse osmosis water is water that has been passed repeatedly through a

Time: 7086.54

series of filters that are designed to remove the kinds of contaminants

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we were talking about earlier.

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So some of the basic contaminants like disinfectant byproducts, fluoride, and

Time: 7097.04

some other large and small molecules that leaves the water ideally still

Time: 7101.905

containing magnesium and calcium.

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Although there's some evidence that reverse osmosis water can deprive water

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of some of the magnesium and calcium.

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So if you are going to use reverse osmosis filters and drink reverse

Time: 7113.03

osmosis water, you want to make sure that you're still getting the

Time: 7116.005

magnesium concentrations present in that water that we talked about earlier.

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But in general, reverse osmosis water is considered safe, but, and for many

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people, this is gonna be an important but but very expensive to access.

Time: 7129.17

The reverse osmosis filters require a lot of changing of the filters.

Time: 7132.65

Purchasing reverse osmosis water in its stable form within containers,

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these are typically glass containers, is going to be pretty expensive

Time: 7141.139

and prohibitive for most people.

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That said, there are a number of people out there that really like

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the taste of reverse osmosis water.

Time: 7148.16

They report it as feeling more smooth.

Time: 7151.07

They think of reverse osmosis water as "giving them energy".

Time: 7155.255

To be quite honest, there's no direct studies of the subjective sensation

Time: 7160.85

of water in the mouth and in the gut, and its relative health effects.

Time: 7164.9

Again, the smoothness of water as one drinks it and goes down.

Time: 7169.65

The gut really has no direct relationship to the "hardness or softness" of water.

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I know that's going to shock a number of you.

Time: 7177.56

You probably think, well, hard water is gonna be hard to drink, and

Time: 7180.14

it turns out that's not the case.

Time: 7181.19

In fact, many people find that with elevated levels of magnesium and

Time: 7184.76

calcium and water, it actually tastes smoother or softer in their mouth.

Time: 7188.785

So hard water tastes smooth or soft.

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I know it's all very counterintuitive, but I think it's important to point this

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out because a number of times you'll hear or read about filtering water so

Time: 7200.03

that it tastes smoother and better.

Time: 7201.53

And oftentimes that's happening because the "hardness" of water that

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is the concentrations of magnesium and calcium are actually increasing.

Time: 7209.36

So if you're somebody who's curious about reverse osmosis water and you can afford

Time: 7213.41

the filters or the reverse osmosis water already pre-filtered please be my guest.

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You know, drink it.

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I'm certainly not trying to prevent anyone from drinking it, but there's

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no peer reviewed evidence that I am aware of that conclusively shows that

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drinking reverse osmosis water is far better for us than drinking other types

Time: 7229.13

of water, provided the other types of water are adequately filtered of

Time: 7232.34

fluoride and the sorts of disinfectant byproducts that we talked about earlier.

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So what about hydrogen water?

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You may have heard of this, or hydrogen enriched water or

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electrolyzed reduced water as a way to access hydrogen enriched water.

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All this might sound pretty crazy to some of you.

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Now, fortunately, for sake of today's discussion, we can take a

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number of the different categories of, let's call it unique categories

Time: 7258.17

of water that have been described, including deuterium-depleted water.

Time: 7261.53

And by the way, deuterium is something that relates to the

Time: 7264.54

presence of hydrogen ions in water.

Time: 7267.02

And put very simply, water that is extracted from sources that are closer

Time: 7272.03

to sea level tend to have more deuterium in them than water that is extracted

Time: 7277.31

from sources further from sea level.

Time: 7278.99

So up in the mountains, for instance, and from springs further away from oceans.

Time: 7283.58

As you get closer to sea level, the sources water separate from seawater

Time: 7288.32

tend to have more deuterium, which relates to the enrichment or lack

Time: 7293.78

of hydrogen within that water or free hydrogen within that water.

Time: 7298.67

I warned you this was all gonna sound pretty niche and that we were gonna get

Time: 7301.34

a little bit into the chemistry, but now I'm gonna make it all very simple for

Time: 7303.745

you, at least for the non aficionado.

Time: 7308.96

Electrolyzed reduced water, which is a method of using electricity to alter

Time: 7314.87

the confirmation of the water molecules and their rates of movement as well,

Time: 7320.35

as well as so-called hydrogen rich water, or hydrogen enriched water or

Time: 7326.48

deuterium-depleted water, all have the property of having higher levels of

Time: 7332.095

pH than other forms of water, such as distilled water, reverse osmosis water,

Time: 7337.76

and generally higher pH than the kind of water that comes out of your tap.

Time: 7341.6

Unless you live in a region where your tap water has very high levels of

Time: 7346.309

magnesium in it, which does occur in certain regions of the world, but is not

Time: 7350.69

that common more typically, the water that comes out of your tap does not

Time: 7354.44

have enough magnesium, meaning not as much magnesium in it as you would like.

Time: 7360.019

And this, I believe, explains in a fairly straightforward way why there is

Time: 7364.76

such an appeal of these pH enhanced or alkaline waters or electrolyzed reduced

Time: 7370.644

water or deuterium-depleted water.

Time: 7373.34

There are a couple of reasons, but first of all, anytime someone is

Time: 7376.37

consuming a specialized form of water, chances are it's going to be filtered

Time: 7380.545

of the disinfectant byproducts, fluoride, and the other things that

Time: 7383.875

you really don't want in water.

Time: 7384.86

So already the water is going to be cleaner than would

Time: 7387.055

be coming out of the tap.

Time: 7388.37

So that's going to indirectly explain a number of the so-called health

Time: 7392.66

benefits, both subjective and perhaps even objective as we'll talk about

Time: 7396.14

that can result from consuming these other let's say more esoteric forms of

Time: 7402.144

water, at least not of simple tap water.

Time: 7406.18

However, if you look at hydrogen or hydrogen enriched water, you really need

Time: 7410.424

to take a step back and ask, what is that?

Time: 7412.73

You know, what are we really talking about?

Time: 7414.44

Because it turns out that you can create hydrogen enriched water by putting tablets

Time: 7418.82

of magnesium itself, small amounts of magnesium dissolving those in water.

Time: 7423.71

It will give off a kind of gaseous solution.

Time: 7426.065

You'll see a bunch of bubbling in there.

Time: 7427.28

You certainly want to dilute that tablet and then consume the water.

Time: 7432.139

And yes, it's true what you've heard about and read from these commercial sources.

Time: 7435.83

You do want to consume that water within about, you know, five to 15 minutes

Time: 7440.179

after that tablet completes dissolving.

Time: 7443.089

Now, why would you do this?

Time: 7444.33

And I should say that I have now started doing this not because I necessarily think

Time: 7450.01

that it's so necessary or so beneficial.

Time: 7453.38

I'll talk about my experience in a moment.

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I did it in anticipation of this episode because I was researching

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water and hydrogen enrich water and all these alkaline waters.

Time: 7461.15

And what became very clear to me based on reading a fantastic two-part

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review, it's a very extensive review entitled, or at least the first part

Time: 7469.61

is entitled: Electrolyzed Reduced Water Molecular Hydrogen is the Exclusive Agent

Time: 7474.799

Responsible for the Therapeutic Effects.

Time: 7476.755

And then there's a second part to this review.

Time: 7478.37

This is how extensive it is, entitled: Electrolyzed Reduced Water number

Time: 7482.63

two, safety Concerns and Effectiveness as a source of Hydrogen Water.

Time: 7486.469

What this review, which we've linked to in the show notes, points to is that

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all of the health benefits of these different forms of water that you hear

Time: 7494.005

about out there, deuterium-depleted, hydrogen enrich, etc., all seem

Time: 7499.325

to boil down, no pun intended, no boiling included, I should say, to the

Time: 7504.755

elevation in hydrogen that translates into, and here's the really meaningful

Time: 7509.885

change, the elevation in pH that occurs when you hydrogen enrich water.

Time: 7515.075

Now, there are not a lot of clinical studies looking at hydrogen

Time: 7519.515

enriched water, but there are starting to be more than a few.

Time: 7523.175

And one that I'd like to point out and that we'll link to, was published

Time: 7527.285

fairly recently, which is entitled Hydrogen-rich water reduces inflammatory

Time: 7531.55

responses and prevents apoptosis.

Time: 7533.465

Apoptosis is a naturally occurring cell death during development and is generally

Time: 7538.115

used to describe cell death of the body.

Time: 7540.245

Sometimes this can be good cell death, by the way, removing

Time: 7542.585

cells that need to be removed.

Time: 7544.145

Again, the title of the paper is: Hydrogen-Rich water reduces inflammatory

Time: 7547.715

responses and prevents apoptosis of peripheral blood cells in healthy Adults.

Time: 7551.135

A randomized double blind controlled trial.

Time: 7554.195

Now this paper looked at the effects of drinking 1.5 liters per day of hydrogen

Time: 7561.28

enriched water for a period of four weeks.

Time: 7565.6

They did find significant positive benefits of reduced inflammation, and

Time: 7571.01

they found these changes by way of analyzing things like interleukin 6

Time: 7575.57

and some of the other interleukins, which are markers of inflammation.

Time: 7578.6

They controlled very nicely for the fact that people were still consuming

Time: 7582.23

other forms of water and liquid and coffee, etc., although they made

Time: 7585.35

sure that they weren't consuming too much coffee and soda in addition

Time: 7588.87

to this hydrogen enriched water.

Time: 7590.96

But what this paper shows is that indeed, increasing the free hydrogen

Time: 7596.33

in water can improve certain health metrics in these cells.

Time: 7600.74

And this is in keeping with some of the subjective reports that people have stated

Time: 7606.77

out there, and that I myself experience, I have to say that by drinking hydrogen

Time: 7611.66

rich water, which I'll tell you how to do fairly inexpensively in a moment,

Time: 7615.5

you do get the subjective experience of having more energy, of "feeling better".

Time: 7620.9

Now, keep in mind, of course, the placebo effect is a very real and powerful

Time: 7626.115

effect, so it could just be placebo, although in this paper they did of

Time: 7628.97

course include a placebo group, so people didn't know if they were getting hydrogen

Time: 7632.485

rich water or non hydrogen rich water.

Time: 7635.09

I should also mention that the improvements in health metrics that they

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observed in this study were only observed for individuals older than 30 years old.

Time: 7645.11

Why that is, I don't know, the conclusions these authors came to in terms of how

Time: 7650.09

these individuals older than 30 achieved lower levels, or I should say reduced

Time: 7654.62

levels of inflammation and improved markers of other aspects of biological

Time: 7659.57

function is that the hydrogen water improved the biological antioxidant

Time: 7665.57

potential of certain cell types.

Time: 7668.48

And again, the cell types that they mainly focus on were these peripheral

Time: 7671.035

blood cells in this particular study.

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Now, how could this be?

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Why would this be?

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Well, this goes back to our earlier discussion about reduction in

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reactive oxygen species, so-called ROSs, and reductions in free

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radicals that can damage cells.

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So if all of this is sounding very convoluted, I can understand why.

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However, what I like about this study and the two reviews that

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I mentioned a moment ago is that these studies don't really say that

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hydrogen-rich water is what's essential.

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What these studies really point to is that the changes in pH of water that

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enhancing the hydrogen in water can create, is what leads to the enhanced

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either absorption and or ability of cells to utilize that higher pH water.

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Again, not by changing the pH of the body or of cells, but simply because higher pH

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water or we could perhaps more accurately state less acidic water, that is harder

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water that contains more magnesium and calcium, seems to be more readily used

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by the cells of the body and therefore it's very likely that the individuals

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in this study were achieving higher or more efficient levels of hydration.

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Okay, so if any of this is confusing, let me be very clear.

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I do not believe that we all need to drink deuterium-depleted water or that

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we all need to drink electrolyzed reduced water, nor do I necessarily believe that

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we all need to drink hydrogen rich water.

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However, it's very clear to me that all these different forms of water are

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better absorbed and therefore lead to better and more efficient hydration, and

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therefore can reduce inflammation, blood pressure, and improve a number of other

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health metrics because of the elevated pH that all of these different purification

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or water treatment methods achieve.

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And that elevated pH, again, is not changing the pH of the cells and

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tissues and organs of your body.

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You actually don't want that, rather that elevated pH is simply making the water

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less acidic than it would be otherwise.

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So the simple takeaway is this, if your tap water contains sufficient

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magnesium per the values that we talked about earlier, I don't think

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you need to hydrogen enrich your water.

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I do however, suggest that you at least analyze your water or look at some of

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the professional analysis of water that you can achieve online and filter out

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disinfectant byproducts and fluorides, etc., from that magnesium, or I should say

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sufficiently magnesium containing water.

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Okay?

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Put simply, if your tap water has enough magnesium, filter it, but drink

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it and I think you're doing just fine.

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If, however, the levels of magnesium in your tap water are not above that value

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that we talked about earlier in that case, I do think, and I can completely

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understand why enriching the amount of hydrogen in that water can make that

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water not only more palatable, right?

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Give you the sensation that it's softer or smoother or more enjoyable to

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drink than more acidic water would be.

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But also that that water is going to be far more effective in being

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absorbed and hydrating in the cells and tissues of your body, which turns out

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to be very important for an enormous range, perhaps every biological

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function within your brain and body.

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So how can you hydrogen enrich your water?

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That actually can be done fairly inexpensively.

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I've been doing that as I mentioned earlier, as part of an experiment in

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preparation for this episode, because it turns out that the water that comes

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out of my tap has very little magnesium in it and very little calcium as well.

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The way to create hydrogen-rich water is you can simply purchase molecular

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hydrogen tablets, which in reality are just magnesium tablets that dissolve in

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water and create a free hydrogen that can interact with the other water molecules.

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Now, the chemistry behind it has been substantiated, and I'll provide

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a link in the show note captions to a paper that gets into some fairly

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extensive detail about the way that having an additional hydrogen in your

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water can adjust the flow of electrons and the adjustment of free radicals.

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But keep in mind, again, this is all through increases in the pH of your water,

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and please keep in mind that you can't simply take any other or any old magnesium

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tablet or capsule and put it into water.

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The configuration of the magnesium in these capsules and tablets is such

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that it allows a rapid dissolving of the tablet and the activation

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of the free hydrogen that can interact with the water molecules.

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Again, there are only a few scientific studies exploring

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the real biological effects of these activated hydrogen waters.

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The dissolvable tablets are the far less expensive way to go than purchasing

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pre-packaged and sealed hydrogen water.

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In fact, I don't recommend those brands because they are quite expensive and

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it's not clear how stable the activated or free hydrogen is in those waters.

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In any case, this is certainly not something that everyone needs to do.

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I mention it because I have had a good experience with it myself.

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I also will mention again that I have no business or affiliation

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to any of these products.

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I'll provide a link to a few of them in the show note captions for those

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of you that want to experiment.

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And indeed, that's why I'm telling you this, for those of you that want

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to experiment with raising the pH of your water without having to purchase

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what is ordinarily quite expensive, higher pH water, you can do this with

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these dissolvable magnesium tablet.

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My experience with them has been quite good.

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In fact, I plan to continue to use them once or twice a day.

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This is not the sort of thing that you need to do in all

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the water that you drink.

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I want to repeat, even if you go down this path and you find that you really

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like the activated hydrogen tablet approach, it is not the case that you

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want to put these in all of your water, and you certainly don't want to put

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them in carbonated waters of any kind.

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That will lead to a lot of gastric discomfort, nor do you want to put

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them into hot liquids of any kind.

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So again, this is the sort of thing that you do once or twice, maybe three

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times a day, and you can find out for yourself and sort of measure subjectively

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whether or not you like the experience and whether or not you "feel better".

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Now, earlier in the episode we were discussing structured water

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or this fourth phase of water.

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I know a number of people out there are curious as to whether or not ingesting

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structured water is somehow better for us than ingesting non-structured water.

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All I can say about this is that it is a very controversial thing to suggest

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that structured water is somehow more biologically effective or better

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for us than non-structured water.

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There are a number of different ways that one can create structured water.

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They involve some pretty extensive and expensive at-home systems ranging anywhere

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from a couple of hundred dollars to a couple of thousand dollars or more.

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To be quite direct, when one goes into the peer reviewed scientific literature,

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one will not find that is there is essentially no real evidence that

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ingesting structured water leads to any specific desired biological outcomes.

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Now, as I say that, I'm sure there are people out there who have still

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had tremendous experiences ingesting structured water, whether or not that's

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due to a placebo effect or a real effect of ingesting structured water isn't clear.

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Just to give you a sense of what my stance is on things like structured

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water, I think that they are interesting and intriguing, but as a scientist, in

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the absence of any quality peer review data at present, I can't really suggest

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that people go out and start ingesting structured water nor that they adhere

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to the claims that structured water is going to be really, really good for

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them compared to other forms of water.

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That said, I do think that there's an interesting and open space for

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further exploration of the biological effects of structured water given the

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fact that structured water does exist.

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I don't think anyone debates that, and the fact that the different

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structures of water in this fourth phase of water as we're calling it,

Time: 8152.225

has been shown to interface with solids and other aspects of liquids and can

Time: 8158.025

do so within organelles of cells.

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So different components of cells that control different

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functions, including mitochondria.

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I think there's a potential there, whether or not there's a promise

Time: 8167.685

there, is a another question entirely.

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So I don't wanna shut the door on structured water.

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I think this is an open question that I hope there will be more

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data to answer those questions in the not too distant future.

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And meanwhile, if any of you are aware of good clinical studies exploring

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the biological effects of structured water in either animal models or

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humans, please put those references in the comments on YouTube because I'm

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very curious as to how this area of biological effects of structured water

Time: 8196.875

is evolving and continues to evolve.

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So today we discussed water, and admittedly we went into a lot of

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detail about the physics and chemistry of water in its various forms.

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And we talked about hydration because I think that's the main reason

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why many of you are interested in or concerned about water.

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We also talked about contaminants and tap water, which unfortunately

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do exist and are very prominent in essentially all regions of the world.

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So please do get some information about what's coming out of your tap.

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I also wanna throw in one other piece of information that's really critical that

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I learned about when researching this episode, which is the quality of water

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that comes out of your tap is not just dictated by the source that it comes

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from external to your home or apartment, your pipes are also important, and that

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filter, or that little mesh that sits at the faucet head is also very important.

Time: 8248.065

Most people don't pay attention to that, but it turns out that a lot of debris

Time: 8251.155

and contaminants can be derived from that little filter that most people just

Time: 8257.845

simply aren't cleaning often enough.

Time: 8259.855

So here, I'm not trying to tell you that the metal or the plastic that

Time: 8264.685

that filter is made of is a problem.

Time: 8266.785

More often than not, contaminants are showing up in water because people aren't

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cleaning those filters often enough.

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And in fact, prior to researching this episode, I didn't ever

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think to clean that filter.

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I looked underneath my faucet and while that filter didn't look particularly

Time: 8282.325

filled with debris, I did find that when I took it off and I looked at the other

Time: 8285.865

sign, there was quite a lot of debris.

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So if you are going to consume tap water, you definitely want to consider

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the source, the pipes in your building or apartment, the ones that lead right

Time: 8294.685

up to your glass or jug that you would put that water into, and also that

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mesh that that water passes through as it goes into that glass or jug.

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We also talked about how much water to drink.

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I hope that we finally resolve that question.

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For those of you that have been wondering about that.

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The Galpin equation is a wonderful approach to how much water

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to consume during exercise.

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And by providing these other formulas of about 8 ounces or 240 milliliters

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of water per hour for the 10 hours from waking until post waking on

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average, remember it's averages.

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You don't have to consume them every hour on the hour, and no need to be neurotic.

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Hopefully you can achieve better levels of hydration, which we know can

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lead to reductions in blood pressure improvements in appetite, mood, and focus.

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And I really think that it's the improvements in cognitive focus and

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physical ability, both endurance strength and other forms of kind of readiness

Time: 8350.11

in the body, readiness to perform work in the body that really are best

Time: 8353.59

supported by the hydration literature.

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And then of course, we went through the different forms of water that you hear

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about out there and addressed which ones are going to be beneficial or not and

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perhaps more importantly, why any of them would be beneficial thinking about

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that from the perspective of biologists and the chemistry of water, and I do

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hope that by arriving at this point in the episode, now that you have a much

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better understanding of the chemistry and physics of water and the way that

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water can powerfully impact your biology.

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